Re: COOLE listed among Manx Surnames

From: The Cooleys <>
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:41:15 -0800

Here's the link:

Upon closer examination, maybe not a REAL close match, but certainly
closer than some of the
other Cooleys you've rounded up.

I tried to find the answer to that last question but I'm striking out.
How many mom and pop stores
die for every Walmart?


On 1/8/2012 10:02 PM, Michael Cooley wrote:
> Thanks for the link, Jim. I'll watch it tomorrow. I love BBC
> documentaries. There's a good one called "Britain AD" renamed "The Age of
> Arthur" for American audiences.
> Do you have a link for these results? I can't find the Isle of Man project.
> The results I have on the Y page are the only R1a1-2b results I've seen
> other than ours. Our common ancestor to this man might go back 2000 years
> or so.
> It just occurred to me that even if our John's grandfather had Y grandsons
> other than John, they might not have living patrilineal descendants. In
> the scheme of things, it's a rare thing that our Y's share a common
> ancestor born 275 year ago and is of a line that stretches back to the
> beginnings of the human race. I wonder how many Y lineages die for each
> one that survives?
> -Michael
>> I was thinking R1a1 (or even R1a1a) but I typed R1a for the general
>> antagonist to R1b. Plus the
>> article I was looking at just had R1a, with the implied Scandinavian
>> roots.
>> I also found a fairly close match at ftdna under the Isle of Man
>> project, kit no. 188790, with a
>> surname KEIG, an R1a1a tracing back to 1730.
>> This was the first time I've noticed the COOLE surname within the
>> British Isles, and with the Isle
>> of Man situated in the Irish Sea, sort of midway between the Irish
>> Cooley Peninsula and Scotland,
>> well, I got a little excited.
>> Check this out when you get a chance, right around the 6 minute mark:
>> Jim
>> On 1/8/2012 7:22 PM, Michael Cooley wrote:
>>> I haven't looked deeply into it. The connection is so ancient that it
>>> can
>>> tell us, I believe, only about the general sweep of the group.
>>> I did, however, find a fairly close matching r1a1-b2. I have his results
>>> listed in the last column at
>>> . It's been awhile
>>> since
>>> I've corresponded to him. He's not a Cooley and, if I recall correctly,
>>> he
>>> was born on the eastern coast of England, perhaps Sussex. I think there
>>> was an adoption involved in his line, too. We were unable to take our
>>> correspondence very far.
>>> BTW, I don't think it's R1a that's Nordic. That haplogroup is even found
>>> in India. But I think R1a1 is.
>>> -Michael
>>>> Was wondering if anyone had gone down this road yet. The common family
>>>> name COOLE comes up in a number of searches for the Isle of Man and
>>>> subsequent yDNA projects. I've only just skimmed this subject but at
>>>> least one study has shown an incidence of around a third of the Manx
>>>> men
>>>> tested with an R1a (Norse) origin. Any thoughts?
>>>> Jim
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