Re: Sarah Matthews m Cooley

From: Sandra Stanton <sandystanton_at_prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 00:55:20 -0800 (PST)

Michael, I see that Mid-Continent Public Library has that volume and they ILL. sandy ________________________________ From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> Sent: Wed, December 7, 2011 3:57:01 PM Subject: Re: Sarah Matthews m Cooley Shoot. I received the wrong volume of "Maury County Cousins" today through interlibrary loan -- 1971 instead of 1967. The librarian said they probably did that because the earlier volume may be non-circulating. She'll find out. If true, she'll request a photocopy of the index so that I will know what pages to request. In any case, it will probably take a few weeks. If anyone has an idea for accessing the book, please try. I've emailed the Maury county TN Genweb coordinator and posted to a couple of lists at genforum. There have not yet been any responses. Maury County Cousins; Bible and Family Records, 1967, by the Maury County (TN) Historical Society. Apparently, it says that the mother of William Matthews Cooley was Sarah Matthews. -Michael > I've provisionally added Sarah Matthews to my database so that I can keep > track of the information. It's here: > > http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/257/ > > I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. I'm sure I'm not alone by saying > that I ate too much! > > -Michael > >> I was just doing some random searching and came across this interesting >> little site >> >> http://lucysfamilytree.com/james.cfm?aId=12582508-C29B-57E0-81553F57FF8DDE15 >> >> A bit of Rowan/Surry/Stokes history, with a lot of abstracts as they >> relate to the James family, >> including several mentions of John and Edward Cooley.  So far I haven't >> found any Matthews, but >> there are Doaks and Hannahs and other names that might catch your eye. >> Or at least something >> to bookmark for later investigation. >> >> Jim >> >> On 11/23/2011 3:56 PM, Michael Cooley wrote: >>> As Helen says below, she got the information from a book called "Maury >>> County Cousins." ... >>> >>> Maury County cousins >>> Bible and family records. >>> Compiled by Maury County, Tennessee Historical Society. >>> Published 1967 in [Columbia?] >>> >>> I've just requested a copy through Interlibrary Loan. >>> >>> Obviously, somebody made a connection between our William Matthews >>> Cooley >>> and the Rowan/Surry county Matthews. But it may have been no more than >>> "Oh, here's someone with the middle name of Matthews. He must be one of >>> ours!" That the book says only that his father was either Abraham or >>> Jno >>> S >>> Cooley indicates they were probably just looking at Jo White Linn's >>> Surry >>> county compilations and making a guess. But the question is how they >>> connected to WMC to Sarah. -Any- public record mentioning a Sarah >>> Cooley >>> in Surry county could be telling. (We do know that Abraham was married >>> to >>> Sarah Reeder.) >>> >>> Apparently, James Matthews Sr left a deed in Guilford county NC giving >>> away his Rowan county land. To whom, one wonders. That would be worth >>> checking out. >>> >>> There's also the point the Steve Matthews says he has autosomal DNA >>> matches to Cooleys. I hope to hear something more from him about that. >>> >>> I'll let everyone know what I find. If anyone has further suggestions, >>> I'd >>> be interested. >>> >>> -Michael >>> >>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>> >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CCAA01.E73CEA40 >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>     charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>> >>>> Is there confirmation that Sarah Matthews Cooley is the mother of = >>>> William Matthews Cooley?  That is more than we had but how certain is >>>> = >>>> that?  The middle name of William is surely something to go on. >>>> Jane >>>>    ----- Original Message -----=20 >>>>    From: Michael Cooley=20 >>>>    To: John Cooley Mailing List=20 >>>>    Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:34 PM >>>>    Subject: Fwd: Re: Sarah Matthews m Cooley >>>> >>>> >>>>    Inconclusive. :( >>>> >>>>    ---------------------------- Original Message = >>>> ---------------------------- >>>>    Subject: Re: Sarah Matthews m Cooley >>>>    From:    "LadyH"<heyladyh_at_yahoo.com> >>>>    Date:    Wed, November 23, 2011 11:47 am >>>>    To:      "Michael Cooley"<michael_at_newsummer.com> >>>>    = >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------= >>>> - >>>> >>>>    Michael, >>>>    I believe that I picked up the name of Sarah Matthews COOLEY and >>>> her >>>> = >>>> son >>>>    William Matthews COOLEY in the book Maury County Cousins. Since my >>>>    search was centered on the male descendants of James MATTHEWS, Sr. >>>> and >>>>    John DOAK, I did not further pursue the surname COOLEY. >>>> >>>>    My info says this: p. 190 >>>>    "The following names often associated with James (Sr) and Mary = >>>> MATTHEWS >>>>    possibly were their children, but verification has not yet been >>>> found: >>>>    Sarah Matthews, who married a COOLEY, and had a son William >>>> Matthews >>>>    COOLEY - - - >>>>    * Mussendine Matthews, Rev. War soldier, who died in Iredell County >>>> in >>>>    1830 - - - >>>>    and Robert Matthews, who died in Iredell County ca 1819 - - - -" >>>> >>>>    NB: Later evidence suggests that this * Mussendine Matthews was not >>>> a = >>>> son >>>>    of James Sr. >>>> >>>>    As you have discovered, many of the biographical books pertaining >>>> to >>>> = >>>> early >>>>    TN and NC families are far from accurate. When I was working in >>>> Salt >>>> = >>>> Lake >>>>    City FHC, I set out to read all the books pertaining to the >>>> Matthews >>>>    surname, especially in Maury Co., TN. I found contradictions >>>> galore.=20 >>>>    Legal records were the best means of delineating the families. >>>> >>>>    I am sorry that I cannot verify the name of the Cooley man to whom >>>> = >>>> Sarah >>>>    Matthews was married. >>>> >>>>    Best regards, >>>>    Helen Odum Harrell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>    Then I listed the several works in chronological order, and was >>>> amazed = >>>> to >>>>    learn that many of the authors either gave no documentation, or >>>> simply >>>>    cited another of the books, and some of the more recent compilers = >>>> cited >>>>    each other!=20 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>    ________________________________ >>>>    From: Michael Cooley<michael_at_newsummer.com> >>>>    To: heyladyh_at_yahoo.com >>>>    Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:34 AM >>>>    Subject: Sarah Matthews m Cooley >>>> >>>>    Hi Helen! >>>> >>>>    I received your email address from Steve Matthews. >>>> >>>>    A descendant of William Matthews Cooley has yDNA-matched to me and >>>> = >>>> nine >>>>    others. We are probably all descendants of John Cooley of Stokes = >>>> county >>>>    NC. >>>> >>>>    Steven tells me that you have a book that says WMC's mother was >>>> Sarah >>>>    Matthews. I'm very interested in knowing what the source of that >>>>    information is. A bad genealogy was written in the 1930s led us all >>>>    astray, but DNA in the last few years have proven that wrong. >>>> >>>>    My page for WMC is at >>>>    http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/StewartCoTN.html >>>> >>>>    The website for John, his probable father, is at >>>>    http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/ . Abraham's family is >>>> pretty = >>>> much >>>>    worked out. We've never been able to find anything that associates >>>> it = >>>> with >>>>    the John Cooley family. >>>> >>>>    If this pans out, you will have many hundreds of names to read into >>>> = >>>> your >>>>    GEDCOM! >>>> >>>>    I can't wait to hear from you! >>>> >>>>    Thanks! >>>>    -Michael >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CCAA01.E73CEA40 >>>> Content-Type: text/html; >>>>     charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>> >>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>> <HTML><HEAD> >>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = >>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1"> >>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.17104" name=3DGENERATOR> >>>> <STYLE></STYLE> >>>> </HEAD> >>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> >>>> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there confirmation that = >>>> Sarah Matthews=20 >>>> Cooley is the mother of William Matthews Cooley?&nbsp; That is more >>>> than = >>>> we had=20 >>>> but how certain is that?&nbsp; The middle name of William is surely = >>>> something to=20 >>>> go on.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> >>>> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jane</FONT></STRONG></DIV> >>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 >>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = >>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >>>>    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> >>>>    <DIV=20 >>>>    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = >>>> black"><B>From:</B>=20 >>>>    <A title=3Dmichael_at_newsummer.com = >>>> href=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">Michael=20 >>>>    Cooley</A>  </DIV> >>>>    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B>  <A=20 >>>>    title=3Dundisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net=20 >>>>    href=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">John Cooley = >>>> Mailing=20 >>>>    List</A>  </DIV> >>>>    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B>  Wednesday, November >>>> 23, = >>>> 2011 3:34=20 >>>>    PM</DIV> >>>>    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>  Fwd: Re: Sarah = >>>> Matthews m=20 >>>>    Cooley</DIV> >>>>    <DIV><BR></DIV>Inconclusive. :(<BR><BR>---------------------------- >>>> = >>>> Original=20 >>>>    Message ----------------------------<BR>Subject: Re: Sarah Matthews >>>> m=20 >>>>    Cooley<BR>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "LadyH"&lt;<A=20 >>>>    = >>>> href=3D"mailto:heyladyh_at_yahoo.com">heyladyh_at_yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>Date:&nb= >>>> sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 >>>>    Wed, November 23, 2011 11:47 >>>> am<BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; >>>> = >>>> "Michael=20 >>>>    Cooley"&lt;<A=20 >>>>    = >>>> href=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</A>&gt;<BR>--= >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<= >>>> BR><BR>Michael,<BR>I=20 >>>>    believe that I picked up the name of Sarah Matthews COOLEY and >>>> her=20 >>>>    son<BR>William Matthews COOLEY in the book Maury County Cousins. >>>> Since = >>>> >>>>    my<BR>search was centered on the male descendants of James >>>> MATTHEWS, >>>> = >>>> Sr.=20 >>>>    and<BR>John DOAK, I did not further pursue the surname = >>>> COOLEY.<BR><BR>My info=20 >>>>    says this: p. 190<BR>"The following names often associated with >>>> James = >>>> (Sr) and=20 >>>>    Mary MATTHEWS<BR>possibly were their children, but verification has >>>> = >>>> not yet=20 >>>>    been found:<BR>Sarah Matthews, who married a COOLEY, and had a son >>>> = >>>> William=20 >>>>    Matthews<BR>COOLEY - - -<BR>* Mussendine Matthews, Rev. War >>>> soldier, >>>> = >>>> who died=20 >>>>    in Iredell County in<BR>1830 - - -<BR>and Robert Matthews, who died >>>> in = >>>> Iredell=20 >>>>    County ca 1819 - - - -"<BR><BR>NB: Later evidence suggests that >>>> this >>>> * = >>>> >>>>    Mussendine Matthews was not a son<BR>of James Sr.<BR><BR>As you >>>> have=20 >>>>    discovered, many of the biographical books pertaining to >>>> early<BR>TN >>>> = >>>> and NC=20 >>>>    families are far from accurate. When I was working in Salt = >>>> Lake<BR>City FHC, I=20 >>>>    set out to read all the books pertaining to the >>>> Matthews<BR>surname,=20 >>>>    especially in Maury Co., TN. I found contradictions >>>> galore.<BR>Legal >>>> = >>>> records=20 >>>>    were the best means of delineating the families.<BR><BR>I am sorry >>>> = >>>> that I=20 >>>>    cannot verify the name of the Cooley man to whom Sarah<BR>Matthews >>>> was = >>>> >>>>    married.<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR>Helen Odum = >>>> Harrell<BR><BR><BR><BR>Then I=20 >>>>    listed the several works in chronological order, and was amazed = >>>> to<BR>learn=20 >>>>    that many of the authors either gave no documentation, or = >>>> simply<BR>cited=20 >>>>    another of the books, and some of the more recent compilers = >>>> cited<BR>each=20 >>>>    other!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR>From: >>>> = >>>> Michael=20 >>>>    Cooley&lt;michael_at_newsummer.com&gt;<BR>To: = >>>> heyladyh_at_yahoo.com<BR>Sent:=20 >>>>    Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:34 AM<BR>Subject: Sarah Matthews >>>> m=20 >>>>    Cooley<BR><BR>Hi Helen!<BR><BR>I received your email address from = >>>> Steve=20 >>>>    Matthews.<BR><BR>A descendant of William Matthews Cooley has = >>>> yDNA-matched to=20 >>>>    me and nine<BR>others. We are probably all descendants of John >>>> Cooley = >>>> of=20 >>>>    Stokes county<BR>NC.<BR><BR>Steven tells me that you have a book >>>> that = >>>> says=20 >>>>    WMC's mother was Sarah<BR>Matthews. I'm very interested in knowing >>>> = >>>> what the=20 >>>>    source of that<BR>information is. A bad genealogy was written in >>>> the >>>> = >>>> 1930s led=20 >>>>    us all<BR>astray, but DNA in the last few years have proven that=20 >>>>    wrong.<BR><BR>My page for WMC is=20 >>>>    = >>>> at<BR>http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/StewartCoTN.html<BR><BR>The= >>>> =20 >>>>    website for John, his probable father, is=20 >>>>    at<BR>http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/ . Abraham's family >>>> is >>>> = >>>> pretty=20 >>>>    much<BR>worked out. We've never been able to find anything that = >>>> associates it=20 >>>>    with<BR>the John Cooley family.<BR><BR>If this pans out, you will >>>> have = >>>> many=20 >>>>    hundreds of names to read into your<BR>GEDCOM!<BR><BR>I can't wait >>>> to = >>>> hear=20 >>>>    from you!<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR>-Michael</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> >>>> >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CCAA01.E73CEA40-- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>>> information. >>>> >>> -- >>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>> information. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >> information. >> > > -- <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list information.
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