[List] Cooley Documents

michael@newsummer.com michael at newsummer.com
Fri May 11 10:54:32 PDT 2007

Hi Dennis,

One of the things that strikes me about these letters is that Virginia is
frequently mentioned as the origin of these Cooleys, rather than North
Carolina, where my Cooleys came from. Furthermore, Stephen Fisher mentions
that William Aaron Cooley came from VA c1780 and that he was the progenitor of
those Cooleys (no mention of Daniel Cooley m Mildred Ball). What's your take
on this? Do you think that Daniel's descendants have been misidentified but
instead belong to another family?

(BTW, one of my objectives is not so much to prove that all of these Cooleys
were related but to try to verify (or disprove, for that matter) any aspect to
the "traditional" family group sheet for John Cooley of Stokes county.)

What I have seen of these letters would indicate to me that these branches
were not related to John and I'd normally go on from there. But we have seen
how one small piece of misplaced information can go a long way toward
corrupting the true story. There is also at least one illustration in the
letters how family bibles themselves, and written by a person who would well
know, can be wrong.

With all of this in mind, do you have any leads as to living male descendants
of the "Daniel" family? To be sure, Don and I would love to get a peek at
their yDNA! :)

Thanks again for all of this, Dennis!

A note to the list: It would be great if some of you had time to transcribe
some of this as plain text and submit to the list--even if just some of the
shorter pieces. The more that is searchable by the Net at large the more
likely that other researchers will find us.

And a note about yDNA: It's simply a swab taken from the inside of the cheek.
No blood. :)


On Thu, 10 May 2007 23:17:04 -0700, Dennis A. Young wrote
> I don't believe so.  This is Daniel B. Cooley, b. in Lincoln Co., KY,
>  served in the War of 1812, and d. in 1864.  In the part of the 
> letter where Moses says that "... Daniel Cooley left Virginia to 
> come to Kentucky on account of one of his boys shooting a man in an 
> argument," Mildred added a note that said:  "Not my direct line. 
>  Daniel _may_ have been a cousin to my James."
> A few pages later where Moses goes on to describe his ggf being 
> scalped by indians, Mildred added a note that said:  "This story was 
> known to my grandfather.  So Dan'l Sr. must have been a bro. of my 
> James - rather an uncle."
> There are also two entries in The Cooley Genealogy that relate, both 
> submitted by Mildred:
> p. 952 (Unplaced Cooleys)
> WILLIAM AARON [COOLEY] of Adair, Ky., b. 1807; d. 1845; m. Susan 
> Hovious; may have been a brother of James, b. 1795, and of John of 
> Carrollton, Mo., 
> b. 1789.  (Mrs. Mildred Cooley Tallant, Glendale, Calif.)
> p. 953 (Unplaced Cooleys)
> WILLIAM AARON [COOLEY] of Adair Co., Ky.; may have had sons Daniel 
> and James, the ancestors of M. E. Cooley of Macon, Ga., and Mrs. 
> Mildred Cooley Tallant, Glendale, Calif., respectively.
> There are two other Hovious women that married into the family.  
> Nancy Hovins married Elisha Fisher, gs of William Aaron.  And 
> Savannah Hovins married Aaron Adair Cooley, brother to James of 1795,
>  and both sons of William Aaron.
> Take a look at the Stephen Fisher letter.  William Aaron Cooley was 
> his gggf, and he talks more about the family and their migrations.
> Dennis
> At 07:37 PM 5/10/2007 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi Dennis,
> >
> >First, a very -big- thank you for making these documents available!
> >
> >I've looked at 4 or 5 so far, including the Moses Cooley docs. Do you think
> >that he and Mildred were on to something by considering that his Daniel Cooley
> >and her James (Alvin) Cooley were closely related? Have you seen anything to
> >indicate whether Daniel was Daniel Jr Cooley(1786-1832)? That man is said to
> >have married Elizabeth Hardwick. Moses says his great grandfather married
> >Betsy Spurlock.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Michaely
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 09 May 2007 23:04:52 -0700, Dennis A. Young wrote
> > > I have custody of some of Mildred Cooley Tallant's original
> > > correspondence and notes.  A couple of those letters have been
> > > transcribed and discussed here.  About a year ago, I scanned them as
> > > .pdf files and saved them on a hard drive for my own use.  I used a
> > > rather high resolution for better legibility, and long descriptive
> > > file names so I could easily find what I was looking for.  I hadn't
> > > planned on generally distributing them, but that was also before
> > > this mailing list.
> > >
> > > I have put the documents on a web site that I just created, with a
> > > rather rudimentary contents page, at
> > > http://www.eskimo.com/~day/cooley/docs/index.htm.  There's some
> > > rather good info there, and you are all free to use the documents as
> > > you wish.  Be aware, though, that some of the file sizes are kinda
> > > large, ranging from about 200 kb to over 4 mb per file.  If any of
> > > you are using dialup, download times may be lengthy.  Because of
> > > this, you may want to save copies of documents you are interested in
> > > locally to save on download times, and for your own documentation.
> > >
> > > I've not really used much of this info previously, since my descent
> > > is from Joseph T. Cooley and Mildred's research focus was on William
> > > Aaron Cooley.  But she was a prolific writer, and some of the folks
> > > she wrote to had info on my line.  I've read on this board that
> > > there is a theory that these lines and others may in fact stem from
> > > the same source.  That makes these documents more relevant, and its
> > > time to post them for general discussion.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
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