Re: Perrin C Cooley thoughts from G Tanner on 2014-04-10 (John Cooley Mailing List)

From: G Tanner <gjtann7_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT)

Michael: My invite to share genomes was accepted by Joel, and 23andme is not showing any match for us. Gloria ________________________________ From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley thoughts Gloria, Look to see that he matches on the same segments as did Jack. -Michael > <html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; > font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida > Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Julie, >  </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: > 15.555556297302246px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', > Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: > transparent; font-style: normal;"> </div><div > style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 15.555556297302246px; font-family: > HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', > sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I > didn't see Joel as a match, but did find 2 Joel Cooley's listed.  I > invited both to share genomes with me.</div><div style="color: > rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 15.555556297302246px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, > 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; > background-color: transparent; > font-style: normal;"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, > 0); font-size: 15.555556297302246px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, > 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; > background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Hopefully, we > can go from there.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); > font-size: 15.555556297302246px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica > Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: > transparent; font-style: normal;"> </div><div > style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 15.555556297302246px; font-family: > HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', > sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: > normal;">Gloria Tanner</div><div> </div> <div > style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, > 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: > HelveticaNeue, > 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; > font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> face="Arial"> From: Michael > Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> bold;">To: John Cooley Mailing List > <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> style="font-weight: bold;">Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:10 > PM Subject: Re: Perrin > C Cooley thoughts </div> <div class="y_msg_container"> Hi > Julie, Reminds us how you descend from Perrin > C. -Michael > How exciting!=20 > It would be do > nice to finally know how we fit!  If a test from me ( or > mom > o= > r uncle Mike) would help I'd be glad to do so.  I think > the female link is > w= > hat hinders us > though. > > > Sent from > my iPhone > > On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:26 PM, "Michael Cooley" > <<a ymailto="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com" > href="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</a>> > > wrote: > >> Yes! Please do. Send them to <a > ymailto="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com" > href="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</a>, rather > than to the >> lis= > t. >>=20 >> I > still don't have Jack's results, but I can run Joel's against >> > Gloria's. >> Of course, there's always the chance that the match > will not show up. >> I'm >> looking forward to it, > though. >>=20 >> > -Michael >>=20 >>> > Michael, >>>=20 >>> Joel and I did finally test > at 23andME and we received the results in >>> > March.=3D >>>  As you recall, Joel is  Jack's > paternal uncle.  Would his results > help >>> you=3D >>> regarding the mysterious > Perrin C. and the DNA connection between Jack >>> and > G=3D >>> loria? >>>=20 >>> We know > you are busy these next weeks but let us know if we can > send >>> you >>> Joe=3D >>> l's > results. >>>=20 >>> Thanks for your continued > interest and musings on Greatgrandfather >>> > Perrin= > >>> > C.=3D >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Nancy and > Joel Cooley >>>=20 >>> Sent from my > iPad >>>=20 >>>> On Apr 9, 2014, at 5:04 PM, > "Michael Cooley" <<a ymailto="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com" > href="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</a>> >>>> > wrote=3D >>> : >>>> =3D20 >>>> > It occurred to me that there's another place that > Perrin C Cooley >>>> might >>>> fit -- and > it might best explain the auDNA match between his >>>> > descendant,= > >>>> Jack, and Gloria Tanner: Could > Perrin have been a child of John's >>>> > (later= > >>>> married Martha Bearden)? John's > children were listed on his brother's >>>> (James) > probate, but the only Perrin listed was John's brother -- > who >>>> we= > >>>> have long > believed to be Perrin Jr. >>>> =3D20 >>>> > But might Perrin C have been disinherited for one reason or > another? >>>> > Might=3D >>>=20 >>>> he have been > illegitimate? (We already suspect that John had > issues >>>> over= > >>>> "controlling > himself.") All we know for sure about John's age is > that >>>> > he= > >>>> was born before 1810. But he could well > have been born just after >>>> 1800, >>>> > making it biologically possible. Perhaps he denied being the > father. >>>> Or,= > >>>> perhaps, no > one knew where Perrin was in 1858 and he wasn't > listed >>>> simply >>>> for that > reason. >>>> =3D20 >>>> Consider, too, that > we find Perrin C living with John's son Edward. >>>> > That= > >>>> they might have been brothers or > half-brothers would make sense. >>>> > =3D20 >>>> And then there's the DNA. The prediction is > that Jack and Gloria are >>>> > 3-5th=3D >>>=20 >>>> cousins. If this theory > is correct, they would be 4th cousins, which >>>> > fits >>>> just right. >>>> > =3D20 >>>> Gloria's mother is going to take the test. This > will first confirm >>>> that >>>> the match > *is* on her side. If Jack's father were to test and the > two >>>> (Jacks's father and Gloria's mother) tested as > 3rd cousins, then we'd >>>> > be= > >>>> spot-on. >>>> > =3D20 >>>> Just some thoughts. We'll see where the testing > takes us. >>>> =3D20 >>>> > -Michael >>>> =3D20 >>>> > -- >>>> <a href=3D3D"<a > href="http://newsummer.com/distlist" > target="_blank">http://newsummer.com/distlist</a>">distlist > 0.9b</a> >>>> See <a > href="http://johncooley.net/list" > target="_blank">http://johncooley.net/list </a>for list > information. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> <a > href=3D"<a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist" > target="_blank">http://newsummer.com/distlist</a>">distlist > 0.9b</a> >>> See <a href="http://johncooley.net/list" > target="_blank">http://johncooley.net/list </a>for list > information. >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> > Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America >> > Administrator, the Akins DNA Project >> Administrator, the > Ashenhurst DNA Project >> Administrator, the Bishop DNA > Project >> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project >> > Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project >> Co-Administrator, > the Cooley DNA Project >> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA > Project >> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute > (OLLI) >> B.A. Humboldt State University, > History >>=20 >> -- >> <a href=3D"<a > href="http://newsummer.com/distlist" > target="_blank">http://newsummer.com/distlist</a>">distlist > 0.9b</a> >> See <a href="http://johncooley.net/list" > target="_blank">http://johncooley.net/list </a>for list > information. > > -- > <a href="<a > href="http://newsummer.com/distlist" > target="_blank">http://newsummer.com/distlist</a>">distlist > 0.9b</a> > See <a href="http://johncooley.net/list" > target="_blank">http://johncooley.net/list </a>for list > information. > -- Second VP, the Cooley Family > Association of America Administrator, the Akins DNA > Project Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project Administrator, > the Bishop DNA Project Administrator, the Eldridge DNA > Project Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA > Project Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project Co-Administrator, > the McDougall DNA Project Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning > Institute (OLLI) B.A. Humboldt State University, > History -- <a href="<a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist" > target="_blank">http://newsummer.com/distlist</a>">distlist > 0.9b</a> See <a href="http://johncooley.net/list" > target="_blank">http://johncooley.net/list </a>for list > information. </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html> -- Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America Administrator, the Akins DNA Project Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) B.A. Humboldt State University, History -- <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9b</a> See http://johncooley.net/list for list information.
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