Re: [Fwd: Re: Thadeus and Abraham Cooley, possible brothers]

From: The Cooleys <lvcooley5_at_cox.net>
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:58:32 -0800

Is the James Matthews that signed the "plan" coincidental or is he the
father of
(or otherwise related to) Sarah Matthews?

Jim

On 2/5/2012 1:19 PM, Michael Cooley wrote:
> John,
>
> Thanks for the scan of the Abraham deed!
>
> List...although we have seen nothing that specifically ties Abraham and
> Thadeus to our John, I think it's in our best interest to keep our minds
> open--at least until we know for certain through DNA testing whether they
> were related, at least patrilineally. (It's always possible that two
> families of the same name but not related each married into a third
> family.)
>
> I sent another email (fourth?) to one of the potential testers and still
> haven't received a response. I'm crossing him off my list. I'll try the
> most recent find again. This time I might as well mention DNA since the
> non-DNA inquiry got no response.
>
> -Michael
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: Thadeus and Abraham Cooley, possible brothers
> From: John Clauss
> Date: Sun, February 5, 2012 4:08 am
> To: michael_at_newsummer.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Michael,
>
> Some additional facts linking Thadeus and Abraham Cooley.
>
> Abraham surveyed land in Surry Co, NC in Dec 1779 - the survey contains
> the name or signature of Stephen Reeder (land owner?), and a likely
> relative of Sarah Reeder (Abraham's wife).
> This same Stephen Reeder sold land to Thadeus Cooley in Mar 1785 in
> Montgomergy Co, VA.
> A Jacob Reeder inventoried the estate of Thadeus Cooley 20 Apr 1815
> (Adventutes III-2).
> A Josiah Reeder witnessed the will of Thadeus Cooley in Oct 1814 in Wythe
> Co, VA.
> Thadeus and Abraham lived at same time during 1780s in Montgomery Co, VA -
> recorded in tax lists. Next tax listing for Abraham is 1800 in Grayson
> Co, VA.
> Thadeus's tax district became part of Wythe Co, VA Dec 1789. Thadeus
> remained in Wythe Co until his death 1814.
> Grayson County was formed from Wythe Co in 1793, so likely Abraham didn't
> move from Surry Co, NC to Grayson Co around 1786 as reported by other
> documents, but rather first moved to Montgomery Co, VA, then this area
> became part of Wythe Co in 1789, then Grayson Co in 1793, and area later
> became part of Carroll Co in 1842, where Abraham and Sarah Reeder are
> reportedly buried
>
> There are so many "coincidences" that statisticians would report a high
> probability that Thadeus and Abraham are linked by family. Evidence seems
> compelling.
>
> John
> -----------------
>
> This plan is laid down from a scale of forty chains to an inch. Signature
> of Stephen Reeder& Josua Hains - S.C.C. This plan represents a tract of
> land surveyed for Abraham Cooley on the waters of Tom's Creek, beginning
> at a Black Oak on the West side of a branch, and runs south fifty chains
> to a Black Oak thence North fifty chains to a Spanish Oak, thence West
> fifty seven chains to the Beginning Containing four hundred acres.
> Surveyed December the thirteenth one thousand seven hundred and seventy
> nine. Signed James Mathews
> -------------------------
> Montgomery Co, VA; Stephen Reeder 3-29-1785 assigned by - to Thadeus
> Cooley 150 acres SW side his land Adventutes III-1.
> http://www.rader.org/wythe.htm
> -------------------------
> Page 125 (Wythe Co, VA Will Book 1)
> WILL OF THADEUS COOLEY
> October 20, 1814
> Wife: Elizabeth
> Rachel Grayson, Hannah Simpson, Polly Hardy, Elizabeth Cooley, Julia
> Hutsell, [these appear to be all daughters of Thadeus. Rachel Cooley m.
> William Grayson. Julia Ann Cooley m. Michael Hutsell. Polly Cooley m.
> Charles Hardy]
> Matilda Stuart [Matilda Cooley Stuart, b. 1800 Wythe, VA likely married a
> Stuart before later married John Snodgrass, they lived Jessamine Co, KY
> 1820, moved to Fayette Co, IN with Thadeus' son John Cooley& wife Martha
> Snodgrass (sister of John Snodgrass) c.1823]
> GD: Cathy Cooley d/o Daniel Cooley dec'd, Tucker Cooley, Sally Cooley
> [grandchildren of Thadeus': (John) Tucker Cooley and Sally Cooley,
> children of Daniel Cooley who d. 1812 in Grayson Co. Abraham Cooley's son
> Benjamin F Cooley on jury that reviewed Last Will of Daniel May 1812]
> Sons: John, Joseph [John Cooley m. Martha Snodgrass c1808 Montgomery Co, VA]
> GS: Reuben Cooley [grandson of Thadeus, same Reuben Cooley that lived in
> Jessamine Co, KY, son of Reuben Cooley Sr. b. c1769 Montgomery Co, VA d.
> Mercer Co, KY 1795 - eldest son of Thadeus listed VA tax lists 1790]
> Daughter: Betsy Cooley
> Exec: Joseph Cooley, son [youngest son of Thadeus] m. Sally Ragsdale 1815.
> He lived next to John Cooley family 1820 in Wythe Co, before John moved
> to IN c.1823]
> Witnesses: Joseph Evans, Lewis Hutsell (0), Josiah Reeder [likely relative
> of Sarah Reeder, wife of Abraham Cooley]
> Sec: Joseph Evans, John Boring
> Recorded: December 13, 1814 Jacob T. Fishback, DC
> ------------------------------------------
> THE COOLEY FAMILY ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
> DEAN MORTIMER E COOLEY, FOUNDER
> Mrs Richard Rust Robert M Willis, mem
> No 9A Ev Papachristojorou Rt 1, Box 1
> Ayu Omoloyites Ironton, Ohio 45638
> Nicosia, Cyprus
> Dear Mrs Rust,
> In answer to your most welcome letter, I received today, I am also a
> descendant of ? Coal Creek, Carroll County, Virginia; Peter Cooley son of
> Abraham Cooley and Sarah Reeder Cooley.
> This information copied from a letter dated July 27, 1934, written by
> Julia Worrell Gowdy, of Pleasant Hill, Missouri.
> Abraham Cooley, was an Englishman, crossed the ocean to America when
> comparatively a young man. His wife was of French descent. Her name was
> Sarah Reeder. They came to New York, grandfather Benjamin Franklin Cooley
> was 7 years old when they moved from New York to North Carolina. They
> remained there five years and then moved to Virginia, grandfather Benjamin
> Franklin Cooley was about 12 years old when he came to Virginia and lived
> there all the rest of his life.
> The names of the parents of Abraham Cooley; dates of his marriage and
> death had not been established in 1960. Using the above slip date (to
> figure from birth date of his son Benjamin Franklin Cooley (Aug 24, 1774)
> we find this picture.
> Abraham Cooley and Sarah Reeder his wife came to New York (date uncertain)
> but moved from New York to North Carolina in 1781. On Oct 13, 1783 he was
> granted 400 acres in Surry County, NC - Which he and his wife Sarah
> conveyed to Henry Burchum on Mar 20, 1786, Deed Book F, page 32. It would
> be about this time they moved to Virginia.
> Abraham Cooley was buried in an old field cemetery about 1/8 mile So of US
> 58 on the bank of Crooked Creek near Woodlawn, Carroll Co, Virginia....
>
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> Date
> Virginia County
> County Commissioner
> Taxable Person
> Names of White Males 21+
> No. White Males Age 16 to 20
> Horses, Mares, Colts, or Mules
> No. Cattle
> Comments
>
> 20 Sept 1787
> Montgomery
> Bird Smith
> James Cooley
> James Cooley
> -
> 1
> 1
> Possible brother of Thadeus
>
> 15 Jun 1787
> Montgomery
> David McGavock
> Thadeus Cooley
> Thadeus Cooley
> 1
> 7
> 14
> This area in Dec 1789 became part of Wythe County
>
> 16 Aug 1787
> Montgomery
> James Newell
> Abram Cooley
> Abram Cooley
> -
> 2
> 4
> Abraham Cooley. Possible brother of Thadeus
>
> 22 Jul 1788
> Montgomery
> James Newell
> Abram Cooley
> A Cooley
> -
> -
> -
> Same Abraham Cooley from England listed in Grayson Co. 1800
>
> 11 Oct 1788
> Montgomery
> Bird Smith
> James Cooley
> James Cooley
> -
> -
> -
> 1788 tax lists
>
> 23 Jan 1789
> Montgomery
> David McGavock
> Thadeus Cooley
> Thadeus Cooley
> 1
> 5
> -
> 1788 Tax Lists. Reuben not yet 21 years old
>
> 27 Feb 1790
> Montgomery
> David McGavock
> Thaddeus Cooley
> Thaddeus Cooley
> Reuben Cooley
> -
> 5
> -
> 1789 tax lists. Reuben turned 21 about 1789
>
> 15 Jul 1790
> Montgomery
> James Newell
> Abram Cooley
> A Cooley
> -
> 2
> -
> 1789 tax lists
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jpclauss<jpclauss_at_aol.com>
> To: michael<michael_at_newsummer.com>
> Sent: Sat, Feb 4, 2012 11:41 pm
> Subject: Thadeus and Abraham Cooley, possible brothers
>
>
> Michael,
>
> I found additional evidence that seems to link Thadeus and Abraham Cooley.
>
> A book on civil war includes letters from a private John T Cooley writing
> to his cousin Julia Ann (Cooley) Price in 1864. Julia Ann Cooley Price
> was the daughter of Benjamin F Cooley, Abraham's son. Pvt John T Cooley
> was the son of John Tucker Cooley Sr, who was the son of Daniel Cooley,
> son of Thadeus (listed as Tucker Cooley, son of Daniel in Thadeus' 1814
> will). I found another posting indicating Daniel's children were John
> Tucker and Sally Cooley (below), which also supports John Tucker as son of
> Daniel. John Tucker Sr. lived his life in Wythe and Tazewell Counties,
> near to descendents of Thadeus. Abraham and his children lived in Grayson
> and Carroll Counties.
>
> Given this info, the letters seem to provide strong evidence that Thadeus
> and Abraham were brothers.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
> http://books.google.pl/books?id=cRSWZug8YowC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Why+Confederates+fought+:+family+and+nation+in+Civil+War+Virginia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Q5ctT6TWBobFswbE_5DtDA&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=john%20t%20cooley&f=false
> ----------------------------------------
>
> 2. DAVID2 COLLINS (DAVID1) was born Abt. 1787 in Montgomery Co., Va., and
> died March 1866 in Wythe Co., Va. He married ELIZABETH STEPHENS Bef. 1815.
>
> Notes for DAVID COLLINS:Listed in Wythe Co. census records
> 1820/30/40/50/60 1831 Mar 15: David and Elizabeth sold land in Montgomery
> Co., Stoney Creek on Main Rd. 1832 Mar 6: David and Elizabeth sold land in
> Montgomery Co. (formerly owned by David Collins)
>
> Notes for ELIZABETH STEPHENS: She was the widow of Daniel Cooley (son of
> Thaddeus Cooley) and mother of 2 children, John Tucker and Sally Cooley)
> when she married David Collins.
>
> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/u/n/Susan-Lundy/GENE7-0002.html
>
>
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