Re: Another "English descent" reference - PPS

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:48:54 -0700

Dave,

Is Gillett one of the other two men in the photo?

-Michael

> Thanks, Dave! I've uploaded it to my notes page for Scott at
> http://ancestraldata.com/Notes/index.cgi?1167836016+/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html
> . It's clickable to the full-size image. I'll also include your
> description.
>
> For those of you who may not know, Dave wrote The Mason County "Hoo Doo"
> War, 1874-1902." Scott Cooley was a principal character in that conflict.
>
> -Michael
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Here is one of the three pictures, which was the only one I could find
>> at
>> the moment.  The man in the lower left is, I believe, Scott Cooley.  The
>> picture came from a granddaughter of James B. Gillett, Texas Ranger, and
>> you will note that lower left is much darker than the other Rangers. 
>> Gillett rode with Cooley.
>>
>> Still looking.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Vickie Thomas <bobvickie200159_at_yahoo.com>
>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference - PPS
>>
>>
>> The other graves in our Cooley family plot re children of George Cooley
>> and Emma and maybe a son's child.
>>
>> From: David Johnson <paladin46077_at_yahoo.com>
>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference - PPS
>>
>>
>> I also have the fake one of Scott plus one I think is him.  I will scan
>> all of them for you all.
>>
>> From: The Cooleys <lvcooley5_at_cox.net>
>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <list_at_johncooley.net>
>> Cc: David Johnson <paladin46077_at_yahoo.com>; John Cooley Mailing List
>> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, please.
>>
>> On 10/2/2011 6:22 PM, David Johnson wrote:
>> That I did know, about Pleasant.  By the by, I have a photo of
>> Pleasant. 
>> If anyone wants it, I will scan same and send it along to everyone.  It
>> only takes one yes vote.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference
>>>
>>>BTW, Dave, you probably know that Scott's bother Pleasant
>> died Feb. 5,
>>>1922 in Comanche co OK. There is an unnamed Cooley buried in
>> the same
>>>cemetery plot section in 1899. I wonder if he was one of the
>> brothers. I
>>>think a DNA test is in order. I'll bring the shovel!
>>>
>>>Birth: unknown
>>>Death: Jun. 10, 1899
>>>
>>>Inscription:
>>>(no other info)
>>>
>>>Burial:
>>>Fairlawn Cemeteries
>>>Comanche
>>>Stephens County
>>>Oklahoma, USA
>>>Plot: Sec 2
>>>
>>>Created by: Jean
>>>Record added: Jan 19, 2007
>>>Find A Grave Memorial# 17565068
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ah, yes. Important distinction!
>>>>
>>>>> We were not invading.  We were liberating the
>> country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 6:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference
>>>>>
>>>>> Jane,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what happened in the 1740s when Prince
>> Charles invaded England
>>>>> from
>>>>> Scotland. The end came at Culloden Moor, after
>> which Scots were locked
>>>>> up
>>>>> in droves. Many of them were sent to America, as
>> was Alexander McDonald,
>>>>> whose son John served with John Cooley in 1755.
>> John Pedder, also on the
>>>>> 1755 list, had also been an indentured servant. I
>> suspect there were
>>>>> others. Richard Goode was of the planter class, his
>> family having been
>>>>> in
>>>>> Virginia for decades. I have often wondered if John
>> had been bound out
>>>>> to
>>>>> the Goodes, but that's just mindless speculation.
>> I've found nothing to
>>>>> support it.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Cooleys appear on various ship lists for
>> reason of transportation.
>>>>> I
>>>>> have them listed at http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/#imm
>>>>>
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Calhoun ancestor that was captured in
>> Scotland about 1650 in a
>>>>>> war
>>>>>> with England, taken back to England and sold as
>> an indentured servant
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> some brick company in Mass.  Anyone explored
>> this possibility.  That
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> cause confusion about English or Scotch.
>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Patrick Cooley" <dvrsyfyd7_at_yahoo.com>
>>>>>> To: "John Cooley Mailing List"
>>>>>> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:33 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent"
>> reference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something close to this has to fit. My
>> grandfather was insistent that
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> father
>>>>>>> Daniel Boon Cooley (great grandson to
>> Edward out of Stokes county) had
>>>>>>> passed
>>>>>>> down to him that our immigrant ancestors to
>> this country were
>>>>>>> Scots-Irish
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> that one of them was a "hunchback" whatever
>> that might mean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a mountain range in Ireland known
>> as the Cooley mountains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List
>>>>>>> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 3:33:30 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent"
>> reference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, brothers Thomas and Edward (Edward,
>> John) went to Appanoose
>>>>>>> county
>>>>>>> IA
>>>>>>> by c1850, where Millard was born. Their
>> nephew, David--from whom I
>>>>>>> descend, showed up there also, moving
>> across the border to Putnam co
>>>>>>> MO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These Cooleys are well-documented in census
>> records, etc. Millard's
>>>>>>> death
>>>>>>> certificate is a mess--and it says that his
>> father was born in
>>>>>>> England,
>>>>>>> decidedly not true. But the strong
>> tradition of English descent down
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> various lines is very telling and can't be
>> ignored.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A story passed down through a brother of
>> Aaron's (James Armstrong
>>>>>>> Cooley)
>>>>>>> that the Cooleys were Jacobites, fighting
>> for Bonny Prince Charlie,
>>>>>>> perhaps at Culloden Moor. The older Cooley
>> brothers were sent to
>>>>>>> London
>>>>>>> and hanged and the younger ones transported
>> to America. Apparently,
>>>>>>> Chuck's relatives in MO regularly went to
>> kirkings. A piece of tartan
>>>>>>> passed down through the family and was
>> buried with his father. I've
>>>>>>> studied Culloden Moor but could find no
>> Cooleys. However, our DNA
>>>>>>> reveals
>>>>>>> a relationship to the Scottish Chieftain
>> Somerled. His descendants,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> McDonalds, were definitely there. The son
>> of one of the McDonald
>>>>>>> transportees, John McDonald, served with
>> Richard Goode and John Cooley
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the Virginia Regiment, 1755.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very interesting story but I can't make it
>> fit!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was his father A.W. or S.E.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/1/2011 9:35 PM, Michael Cooley
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Regarding Millard F Cooley (Aaron,
>> Edward, Edward, John)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> History of Fremont and Mills
>> County, Iowa
>>>>>>>>> Chicago: Lewis Pub. Co., 1901.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've copied it here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://ancestraldata.com/Notes/index.cgi?1171050809+/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html
>>>>>>>>>l
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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