Re: Another "English descent" reference - PPS

From: David Johnson <paladin46077_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:09:37 -0700 (PDT)

No.  Gillett had that and three or four other pictures of Rangers in his collection.  Elsewhere, and I think I sent some of you this, there is evidence that Scott was darker than most and showed some Cherokee blood.  It is good circumstantial evidence, but ONLY circumstantial. ________________________________ From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference - PPS Dave, Is Gillett one of the other two men in the photo? -Michael > Thanks, Dave! I've uploaded it to my notes page for Scott at > http://ancestraldata.com/Notes/index.cgi?1167836016+/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html > . It's clickable to the full-size image. I'll also include your > description. > > For those of you who may not know, Dave wrote The Mason County "Hoo Doo" > War, 1874-1902." Scott Cooley was a principal character in that conflict. > > -Michael > >> Hi Guys, >> >> Here is one of the three pictures, which was the only one I could find >> at >> the moment.  The man in the lower left is, I believe, Scott Cooley.  The >> picture came from a granddaughter of James B. Gillett, Texas Ranger, and >> you will note that lower left is much darker than the other Rangers.  >> Gillett rode with Cooley. >> >> Still looking. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vickie Thomas <bobvickie200159_at_yahoo.com> >> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> >> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 7:39 AM >> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference - PPS >> >> >> The other graves in our Cooley family plot re children of George Cooley >> and Emma and maybe a son's child. >> >> From: David Johnson <paladin46077_at_yahoo.com> >> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> >> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:27 PM >> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference - PPS >> >> >> I also have the fake one of Scott plus one I think is him.  I will scan >> all of them for you all. >> >> From: The Cooleys <lvcooley5_at_cox.net> >> To: John Cooley Mailing List <list_at_johncooley.net> >> Cc: David Johnson <paladin46077_at_yahoo.com>; John Cooley Mailing List >> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> >> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:20 PM >> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference >> >> >> >> Yes, please. >> >> On 10/2/2011 6:22 PM, David Johnson wrote: >> That I did know, about Pleasant.  By the by, I have a photo of >> Pleasant.  >> If anyone wants it, I will scan same and send it along to everyone.  It >> only takes one yes vote. >>> >>> >>> >>>From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> >>>To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> >>>Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:40 PM >>>Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference >>> >>>BTW, Dave, you probably know that Scott's bother Pleasant >>            died Feb. 5, >>>1922 in Comanche co OK. There is an unnamed Cooley buried in >>            the same >>>cemetery plot section in 1899. I wonder if he was one of the >>            brothers. I >>>think a DNA test is in order. I'll bring the shovel! >>> >>>Birth: unknown >>>Death: Jun. 10, 1899 >>> >>>Inscription: >>>(no other info) >>> >>>Burial: >>>Fairlawn Cemeteries >>>Comanche >>>Stephens County >>>Oklahoma, USA >>>Plot: Sec 2 >>> >>>Created by: Jean >>>Record added: Jan 19, 2007 >>>Find A Grave Memorial# 17565068 >>> >>> >>>> Ah, yes. Important distinction! >>>> >>>>> We were not invading.  We were liberating the >>            country. >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> >>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 6:11 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference >>>>> >>>>> Jane, >>>>> >>>>> That's what happened in the 1740s when Prince >>            Charles invaded England >>>>> from >>>>> Scotland. The end came at Culloden Moor, after >>            which Scots were locked >>>>> up >>>>> in droves. Many of them were sent to America, as >>            was Alexander McDonald, >>>>> whose son John served with John Cooley in 1755. >>            John Pedder, also on the >>>>> 1755 list, had also been an indentured servant. I >>            suspect there were >>>>> others. Richard Goode was of the planter class, his >>            family having been >>>>> in >>>>> Virginia for decades. I have often wondered if John >>            had been bound out >>>>> to >>>>> the Goodes, but that's just mindless speculation. >>            I've found nothing to >>>>> support it. >>>>> >>>>> John Cooleys appear on various ship lists for >>            reason of transportation. >>>>> I >>>>> have them listed at http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/#imm >>>>> >>>>> -Michael >>>>> >>>>>> I have a Calhoun ancestor that was captured in >>            Scotland about 1650 in a >>>>>> war >>>>>> with England, taken back to England and sold as >>            an indentured servant >>>>>> to >>>>>> some brick company in Mass.  Anyone explored >>            this possibility.  That >>>>>> could >>>>>> cause confusion about English or Scotch. >>>>>> Jane >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Patrick Cooley" <dvrsyfyd7_at_yahoo.com> >>>>>> To: "John Cooley Mailing List" >>>>>> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:33 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" >>            reference >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Something close to this has to fit. My >>            grandfather was insistent that >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> father >>>>>>> Daniel Boon Cooley (great grandson to >>            Edward out of Stokes county) had >>>>>>> passed >>>>>>> down to him that our immigrant ancestors to >>            this country were >>>>>>> Scots-Irish >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> that one of them was a "hunchback" whatever >>            that might mean. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a mountain range in Ireland known >>            as the Cooley mountains. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> >>>>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List >>>>>>> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> >>>>>>> Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 3:33:30 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" >>            reference >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW, brothers Thomas and Edward (Edward, >>            John) went to Appanoose >>>>>>> county >>>>>>> IA >>>>>>> by c1850, where Millard was born. Their >>            nephew, David--from whom I >>>>>>> descend, showed up there also, moving >>            across the border to Putnam co >>>>>>> MO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These Cooleys are well-documented in census >>            records, etc. Millard's >>>>>>> death >>>>>>> certificate is a mess--and it says that his >>            father was born in >>>>>>> England, >>>>>>> decidedly not true. But the strong >>            tradition of English descent down >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> various lines is very telling and can't be >>            ignored. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A story passed down through a brother of >>            Aaron's (James Armstrong >>>>>>> Cooley) >>>>>>> that the Cooleys were Jacobites, fighting >>            for Bonny Prince Charlie, >>>>>>> perhaps at Culloden Moor. The older Cooley >>            brothers were sent to >>>>>>> London >>>>>>> and hanged and the younger ones transported >>            to America. Apparently, >>>>>>> Chuck's relatives in MO regularly went to >>            kirkings. A piece of tartan >>>>>>> passed down through the family and was >>            buried with his father. I've >>>>>>> studied Culloden Moor but could find no >>            Cooleys. However, our DNA >>>>>>> reveals >>>>>>> a relationship to the Scottish Chieftain >>            Somerled. His descendants, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> McDonalds, were definitely there. The son >>            of one of the McDonald >>>>>>> transportees, John McDonald, served with >>            Richard Goode and John Cooley >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the Virginia Regiment, 1755. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very interesting story but I can't make it >>            fit! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Michael >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Was his father A.W. or S.E.? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/1/2011 9:35 PM, Michael Cooley >>            wrote: >>>>>>>>> Regarding Millard F Cooley (Aaron, >>            Edward, Edward, John) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> History of Fremont and Mills >>            County, Iowa >>>>>>>>> Chicago: Lewis Pub. Co., 1901. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've copied it here: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://ancestraldata.com/Notes/index.cgi?1171050809+/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html >>>>>>>>>l >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>>>>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ >>            for list >>>>>>>>> information. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>>>>>> information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>>>>>> information. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>>>>> information. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>>>> information. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>>> information. >>>> >>> >>>-- >>><a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> >>>See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list >>> information. >>> >>> >>> > > -- <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list information.
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