Re: Birth date for James Cooley that married Jane White

From: Michael Cooley <>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:14:38 -0700

The professor (a Civil War specialist and author) has said that lots of
women served but none were found out to be women until later. No woman
could openly serve in the army on either side. They all passed as men.

Professor Mays has said that the Confederate records are a mess. He didn't
elaborate. I'm sure much of it was destroyed, but I'd bet that a lot of it
was simply ignored for a very long time.


> Michael, since you are taking a Civil War class, from the information you
> are learning is there any possibility I could ever find information to
> prove
> or disprove that my GG Grandmother, Sarah Elizabeth Cooley, born 1845,
> Missouri, daughter of William Cooley, born 1818, son of John(Joseph)
> served
> as a Cpt. in the Civil War, Confederate side?? I have found her listed as
> such in Jan Martinet's Cooley history but cannot find any thing to prove
> her
> service under General Price. Was it illegal for a woman to serve as an
> officer? Her brother died in southern prison and her father and another
> brother were in prison in Alton, Ill.
> Her first husband was killed by bushwhackers in Randolph Co. sometime
> prior
> to 1868 when she married her second husband. Can't find that story
> either.
> HIs name was Phillips and I don't know the first name.
> Jane Wisdom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Cooley" <>
> To: "John Cooley Mailing List" <>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Birth date for James Cooley that married Jane White
>> Good to hear from you, Shirley!
>> Thanks for the info on Hank Jones. He's a very interesting fellow! I
>> guess
>> I haven't followed genealogy personalities as closely as I have jazz
>> personalities. :)
>> And thanks for the confirmation about the lack of legal status that
>> women
>> had back then. (I'm starting a book called "Mothers of Invention" for
>> the
>> Civil War class I'm taking. It's about just that--which, of course, was
>> much worse in the South.) It is looking like the sisters were the oldest
>> siblings in James's family--an interesting pattern: two or three girls
>> followed by umpteen boys!
>> -Michael
>>> It's been several years since I head Hank speak. He is a Fellow of the
>>> American Society of Genealogists and is best known for his books and
>>> articles on the Palatines. You can read about him at
>>> You are correct that the age of the female was inconsequential as once
>>> she was married, even at say age 15, she would not be listed as a minor
>>> heir. And yes, once married, her husband would normally control
>>> anything
>>> she inherited.
>>> Shirley Wilcox
>>> On 9/27/2011 4:32 PM, Michael Cooley wrote:
>>>> Of course, the -husbands- at that time were the actual heirs, as
>>>> inferred
>>>> in the "letters." The females ages may have been inconsequential
>>>> because
>>>> of their marriages.
>>>> The only Hank Jones I've heard of is the great jazz musician (brother
>>>> of
>>>> Thad Jones and Elvin Jones)! I assume that Hank Z Jones is a noted
>>>> genealogist.
>>>> -Michael
>>>>> females were of age at 18 and males at 21 doing this time period, I
>>>>> believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
>>>>> Just came home from hearing Hank Z Jones speak at our gen. meeting.
>>>>> He
>>>>> is
>>>>> always a very intertaining speaker. Since he lives here in San Diego
>>>>> county we have him about every year or so.
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