Re: Perrin C Cooley

From: G Tanner <gjtann7_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:24:32 -0700 (PDT)

Interesting info.  I'm also interested in who John Cooley's first wife was.  Did we ever rule out Polly Kitchen? Has anyone ever been able to physically do research at the courthouses in Missouri where the Cooley families resided?  Where do we go from here?  Gloria ________________________________ From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:48 PM Subject: Perrin C Cooley The parentage of Perrin C Cooley has been one of the group's enduring mysteries. The name Perrin, his birth in Missouri, and his descendants' Y DNA make it certain that he is one of ours. We know from Gloria's discovery of the probate record of Perrin Sr's son, James, had brothers John (m Martha Bearden) and Perrin. Of course, most of us assumed that Perrin was Perrin Jr--and that may be true. Then Gloria made another discovery a few months ago--that her autosomes have a matching segment to Jack Cooley, Perrin C's descendant. The predicted relationship is 4th to 5th cousins. Here's a page I put together at that time: http://ancestraldata.com/staging/N70352-autosomes.html The first question that needed be settled was whether the match indeed came down through the Cooleys. That's been largely resolved. Gloria's mother, a Cooley descendant, has tested. Her results exhibit the same markers that Gloria has. That greatly increases the likelihood that the match comes down through a Cooley common ancestor. But the match, as I explain in this paragraph, reveal nothing more about the degree of relationship with Jack. Typically, a child is going to inherit a smaller portion (if any at all) of the matching segment. (The genome needs to make room for a host of new ancestral DNA derived from the second parent.) For example, my dad's autosomes have a reasonably large match to Jack's uncle. I inherited less than a third of it. However, Gloria inherited virtually all of her mother's matching segment, which (I would think) is typically within the range of common possibilities. The upshot of that is that the predicted relation between Gloria's mother and Jack is pretty much the same as that for Gloria and Jack. In playing around with the results, I can tweak the parameters of the online tools I use and search for very small matching segments which, individually, are quite trivial. However, Gloria has only about one third of those matches to Jack then her mother does. I'm my no means an expert in autosomal DNA, but there might be something there that can hep us fine-tune the relationship prediction. For now, we're still left with the dilemma: who was Perrin C's father. If we can determine the degree of relationship, we might be able to answer that question. I've started a project to help us examine the autosomes of John's descendants. If any of you have tested, please consider joining by sending me an email. http://johncooley.net/johnsauto/ I'm still of the opinion that Perrin might have had a fifth as of yet identified son. The 1800 and 1810 census records suggest at the possibility. The 1840 census for "Derrin" Cooley of Randolph County, MO has two men 20-29. One would have been Perrin Jr. Could the other be Perrin C, who would have been 20 that year? The census entries for Perrin Sr includes a boy 10-14. Was he a grandson? If so, could he have been the son of this missing 5th son of Perrin's? We know that John Cooley (1827-1900+) m Sarah Ann Treadwell was born in Missouri. Is this him? If so, might he and Perrin C have been brothers? I'm on the hunt for a Y descendant of John's. http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/1840-MO.html BTW, we've found a tester in the Cooley/Hardin line. -Michael -- <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9b</a> See http://johncooley.net/listfor list information.
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