Here's another interesting chart. It provides an estimate for L448 at
about 2700 years ago. I've seen estimates as recent as 2300 years ago.
http://r1a.org/
Of course, one of the things we're looking for is a downstream SNP that
has no positive test results in Norway. With that, we should get a pretty
good idea as to when our guy crossed the North Sea.
-Michael
On Sat, June 14, 2014 3:40 pm, Michael Cooley wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
>
> The impression I have is that the evidence gathered for these SNPs are
> presently minimal. I don't think an accurate timeline is known. And notice
> that "Viking" no longer appears on this tree. It's all very fluid.
> Indeed,
> the insertion of S5301 between Z284 and Z284 is recent.
>
> I see that the timeline estimates are derived from the "K Nordtvedt
> system." He's a physicist. I haven't had a chance to read this yet:
>
> https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/news/ken-nordtvedt-genetic-genealogy-
> interview/
>
> That's great to hear Brian is so interested! How old is he? Perhaps we
> have a geneticist in the works! :)
>
> -Michael
>
>
> On Sat, June 14, 2014 3:03 pm, lvcooley5 wrote:
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>> If I=E2=80=99m reading the chart correctly, YP355 seems to have emerged
>> =
>> around 500 b.c. and S6842, also downstream from S5301, emerges around =
>> the same period. Are there any ideas who or what S6842 represents? I
>> mainly ask because the chart = appears to imply that both S6842 and
>> CTS4027 lead to the tribesman in =
>> red and yellow and my son Brian, who is showing a great interest in all
>> =
>> of this, is going to ask me about them. I=E2=80=99m assuming that =
>> this group is currently unknown, like YP355, but unlike the group =
>> downstream from CTS4179 labeled Scots. I found the distribution map
>> for =
>> CTS4027 indicating Sweden as the largest percentage, but haven=E2=80=99t
>> =
>> found anything on S6842. =20
>>
>> Jim
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>>
>>
>> ps Thanks for taking the test!
>>
>> From: Cooley=20
>> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 1:17 PM
>> To: John Cooley Mailing List=20
>> Subject: Re: YP355 result is back
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>> That's great Michael that your positive for a SNP downstream from L448.
>> =
>> When FTDNA offers testing of this SNP, I'll do the test to add more =
>> evidence that YP355 is indeed a Cooley Y-DNA SNP. -Don
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>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Michael Cooley
>> <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>> =
>> wrote:
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>> I'm positive for it (meaning the call yielded "A"! YSEQ was a breeze =
>> to work with.
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>> --quote--
>> YP355
>> [YP355]
>> HG19 Position: ChrY:15318528..15318528
>> Ancestral: T
>> Derived: A
>> Reference: YFull (2014)
>> ISOGG Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a (not listed)
>> Comments: Downstream of L448. parallel to CTS4179
>> Forward Primer: YP355_F GCCTGGGATAAGACAGTTGC
>> Reverse Primer: YP355_R TCGGATGTGTGCATTTTAGC
>> --endquote--
>>
>>
>>
>> -Michael
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>> emerged around 500=20 b.c. and S6842, also downstream from S5301,
>> emerges around the same=20 period. Are there any</DIV> <DIV>ideas
>> who or what S6842 represents? I mainly ask because the =
>> chart=20 appears to imply that both S6842 and CTS4027 lead to the
>> tribesman in = red and=20 yellow and my son Brian, who is showing a
>> great interest in all of this, = is=20 going to ask me about
>> them. I=E2=80=99m assuming that =
>> this group is=20 currently unknown, like YP355, but unlike the group
>> downstream from = CTS4179=20 labeled Scots. I found the
>> distribution map for CTS4027 indicating = Sweden=20
>> as the largest percentage, but haven=E2=80=99t found anything on =
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>> <DIV>Jim</DIV>
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>> <DIV>ps Thanks for taking the test!</DIV>
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>> <DIV dir=3Dltr>That's great Michael that your positive for a SNP =
>> downstream from=20 L448. When FTDNA offers testing of this SNP, I'll do
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>> -Don<BR></DIV>
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>> (2014)<BR>ISOGG Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a (not listed)<BR>Comments: =
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>> of L448. parallel to CTS4179<BR>Forward Primer: YP355_F=20
>> GCCTGGGATAAGACAGTTGC<BR>Reverse Primer: YP355_R=20
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