Re: Perrin C Cooley

From: Mary Lou Cooley <mlcooley_at_q.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:55:03 -0700

According to the 1920 census Daisy Woods married and divorced someone with
the last name of Earixson, I suspect Erickson.

Ancestry is still not offline. I am more than irritated!

Mary C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cooleyjoel
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:19 PM
To: John Cooley Mailing List
Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley

e not discovered a birth certificate yet so the mother's name is still
uncer=
tain.
Nancy

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> On Jun 17, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Cynthia Nottingham
> <cynthia_nottingham_at_hotmai=
l.com> wrote:
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> The back of the photo says "Joseph Cooley's sister and daughter". The
> phot=
o=3D
> graph looks like it was taken in Kansas City=3D2C KS.=3D20
> =3D20
> Her death certificate is also attached and does list the father as Perrin
> C=
=3D
> ooley. I've attached it to the mail.
> =3D20
>> Date: Tue=3D2C 17 Jun 2014 11:28:55 -0600
>> From: mlcooley_at_q.com
>> To: undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net
>> Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley
>> =3D20
>> Does anyone know who this tree belongs to? I saw on Ancestry.com
>> yesterd=
=3D
> ay=3D20
>> (before their website went down):
>> =3D20
>> Family Tree: Towner Family Tree
>> Owner: terrizaz
>> =3D20
>> On this tree was a photo of Nellie Woods with her daughter Daisey Woods.
>> =3D=

> On=3D20
>> the back is written=3D2C "sister of Joseph Cooley" (I think it was
>> Joseph=
C=3D
> =3D20
>> Cooley but I can't get on Ancestry website to confirm). Nellie was born
>> =3D=

> 01=3D20
>> Feb 1859 in Holt Co.=3D2C MO in this tree. I believe there was also a
>> de=
at=3D
> h=3D20
>> certificate for Nellie listing her father as Perrin Cooley but mother's
>> n=
=3D
> ame=3D20
>> was unknown. Mother was listed on the website as Emeline Sutton.
>> =3D20
>> This is the 1900 census for Nellie:
>> 1900 United States Federal Census
>> Name: Nellie Woods
>> Age: 43
>> Birth Date: May 1857
>> Birthplace: Indiana
>> Home in 1900: St Joseph Ward 6=3D2C Buchanan=3D2C Missouri
>> Race: White
>> Gender: Female
>> Relation to Head of House: Wife
>> Marital Status: Married
>> Spouse's Name: Francis Woods
>> Marriage Year: 1875
>> Years Married: 25
>> Father's Birthplace: Indiana
>> Mother's Birthplace: Indiana
>> Mother: number of living children: 1
>> Mother: How many children: 1
>> Household Members: Name Age
>> Francis Woods 54 (b. Indiana)
>> Nellie Woods 43
>> Daisey Woods 20 (b. Kansas)
>> ~~~~~~
>> Nellie married John Francis Woods b. Dec 1846 in IN (per 1900 census).
>> =3D20
>> Sorry=3D2C to be so vague but I didn't save photo before Ancestry
>> website=
w=3D
> ent=3D20
>> down.
>> =3D20
>> Mary C.
>> =3D20
>> -----Original Message-----=3D20
>> From: Michael Cooley
>> Sent: Tuesday=3D2C June 17=3D2C 2014 2:25 AM
>> To: John Cooley Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley
>> =3D20
>> Yeah=3D2C that's how I've had it on my "Y page" for years. In 1810=3D2C
>> P=
erri=3D
> n had
>> four sons--and Perrin Jr hadn't even yet been born (if we can believe
>> the=

>> date=3D2C c1813=3D2C that we have for him). William was born c1804. John
>> w=
oul=3D
> dn't
>> have been born much later--likely earlier. There may have been two
>> births=

>> c1799-1802. A thought here. Old genealogies give the birth of your
>> James'=
=3D
> s
>> son John H Cooley as 1802. For a number of reasons=3D2C I don't think it
>> w=
a=3D
> s
>> right=3D2C just as I think James's James's birthdate was wrongly given
>> as=
(=3D
> I
>> think) 1796/7 (I'd have to look at old emails.) Perhaps the evidence
>> attributed to James's James and John H were for Perrin's children. In
>> other words=3D2C it may have been Perrin's John that was born in 1802.
>> If=

>> true=3D2C that does leave a good window for the the birth of another
>> son.=
B=3D
> ut
>> if James had a second deceased brother other than John=3D2C why didn't
>> al=
so
>> make provisions for his children in his estate=3D2C as he did with
>> John's=

>> heirs?
>> =3D20
>> It's also possible that Perrin C and/or the John Cooley (m Treadwell)
>> wer=
=3D
> e
>> unacknowledged sons of either Perrin Sr or his son John. In 1840=3D2C
>> Per=
ri=3D
> n C
>> was likely living with Perrin Jr=3D2C and John (m Treadwell) may have
>> bee=
n =3D
> the
>> boy of about the right age to be living with Perrin Sr.
>> =3D20
>> The possibilities boggle the mind. But the DNA data is helping to point
>> the way. I'm still hoping for a "magic SNP". :)
>> =3D20
>> Somewhere in my 1991 and 1992 correspondence with Jo White Linn=3D2C she
>> s=
a=3D
> id
>> that Perrin was an important name in Virginia. I've tried following
>> through with the notion a few times but really found nothing.
>> =3D20
>> -Michael
>> =3D20
>> =3D20
>>> On Tue=3D2C June 17=3D2C 2014 1:35 am=3D2C lvcooley5 wrote:
>>> Though there have been stranger scenarios=3D2C it seems most likely
>>> that=

>>> Perrin C. is the son of a deceased son of Perrin Sr. The 1800 Stokes
>>> Census lists 2 males under 10=3D2C which would have been James (1797)
>>> and=3D2C presumably=3D2C Perrin C's father (let's call him Joseph?)
>>>=20
>>> Are there any unaccounted-for Missouri marriages circa 1820?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> PS Has anyone ever mentioned before that there is an unincorporated
>>> town in Gloucester County=3D2C Virginia=3D2C called Perrin? It's due
>>> ea=
st =3D
> of=3D20
>>> Hayes
>>> in the area that also includes the Perrin River. There was a prominent
>>> Perrin family there pre-1700 but so far I haven't found
>>> any gold.
>>>=20
>>> Jim
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Michael Cooley
>>> Sent: Saturday=3D2C June 14=3D2C 2014 5:48 PM
>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List
>>> Subject: Perrin C Cooley
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> The parentage of Perrin C Cooley has been one of the group's enduring
>>> mysteries. The name Perrin=3D2C his birth in Missouri=3D2C and his
>>> desce=
nda=3D
> nts' Y
>>> DNA make it certain that he is one of ours.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> We know from Gloria's discovery of the probate record of Perrin Sr's
>>> so=3D=

> n=3D2C
>>> James=3D2C had brothers John (m Martha Bearden) and Perrin. Of
>>> course=3D=
2C=3D
> most
>>> of us assumed that Perrin was Perrin Jr--and that may be true.
>>>=20
>>> Then Gloria made another discovery a few months ago--that her autosomes
>>> have a matching segment to Jack Cooley=3D2C Perrin C's descendant. The
>>> predicted relationship is 4th to 5th cousins. Here's a page I put
>>> together at that time:
>>>=20
>>> http://ancestraldata.com/staging/N70352-autosomes.html
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> The first question that needed be settled was whether the match indeed
>>> came down through the Cooleys. That's been largely resolved. Gloria's
>>> mother=3D2C a Cooley descendant=3D2C has tested. Her results exhibit
>>> the=
sa=3D
> me
>>> markers that Gloria has. That greatly increases the likelihood that the
>>> match comes down through a Cooley common ancestor.
>>>=20
>>> But the match=3D2C as I explain in this paragraph=3D2C reveal nothing
>>> mo=
re =3D
> about
>>> the degree of relationship with Jack. Typically=3D2C a child is going
>>> to=

>>> inherit a smaller portion (if any at all) of the matching segment. (The
>>> genome needs to make room for a host of new ancestral DNA derived from
>>> the second parent.) For example=3D2C my dad's autosomes have a
>>> reasonabl=
y
>>> large match to Jack's uncle. I inherited less than a third of it.
>>> Howev=3D=

> er=3D2C
>>> Gloria inherited virtually all of her mother's matching segment=3D2C
>>> whi=
=3D
> ch
>>> (I
>>> would think) is typically within the range of common possibilities. The
>>> upshot of that is that the predicted relation between Gloria's mother
>>> a=3D=

> nd
>>> Jack is pretty much the same as that for Gloria and Jack.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> In playing around with the results=3D2C I can tweak the parameters of
>>> th=
e
>>> online tools I use and search for very small matching segments
>>> which=3D2=
C
>>> individually=3D2C are quite trivial. However=3D2C Gloria has only about
>>> o=
ne=3D
> third
>>> of those matches to Jack then her mother does. I'm my no means an
>>> expe=3D=

> rt
>>> in autosomal DNA=3D2C but there might be something there that can hep
>>> us=

>>> fine-tune the relationship prediction.
>>>=20
>>> For now=3D2C we're still left with the dilemma: who was Perrin C's
>>> fathe=
r=3D
> . If
>>> we can determine the degree of relationship=3D2C we might be able to
>>> ans=
=3D
> wer
>>> that question. I've started a project to help us examine the autosomes
>>> =3D=

> of
>>> John's descendants. If any of you have tested=3D2C please consider
>>> joini=
=3D
> ng
>>> by sending me an email.
>>>=20
>>> http://johncooley.net/johnsauto/
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I'm still of the opinion that Perrin might have had a fifth as of yet
>>> identified son. The 1800 and 1810 census records suggest at the
>>> possibility. The 1840 census for "Derrin" Cooley of Randolph
>>> County=3D2C=
=3D
> MO
>>> has two men 20-29. One would have been Perrin Jr. Could the other be
>>> Perrin C=3D2C who would have been 20 that year? The census entries for
>>> P=
e=3D
> rrin
>>> Sr includes a boy 10-14. Was he a grandson? If so=3D2C could he have
>>> bee=
=3D
> n
>>> the son of this missing 5th son of Perrin's? We know that John Cooley
>>> (1827-1900+) m Sarah Ann Treadwell was born in Missouri. Is this him?
>>> I=3D=

> f
>>> so=3D2C might he and Perrin C have been brothers? I'm on the hunt for a
>>> Y=

>>> descendant of John's.
>>>=20
>>> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/1840-MO.html
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> BTW=3D2C we've found a tester in the Cooley/Hardin line.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -Michael
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> <a href=3D3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9b</a>
>>> See http://johncooley.net/list for list information.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> <a href=3D3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9b</a>
>>> See http://johncooley.net/list for list information.
>> =3D20
>> =3D20
>> --=3D20
>> VP=3D2C the Cooley Family Association of America
>> Administrator=3D2C the Akins DNA Project
>> Administrator=3D2C the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> Administrator=3D2C the Bishop DNA Project
>> Administrator=3D2C the Eldridge DNA Project
>> Administrator=3D2C the Fisk DNA Project
>> Administrator=3D2C the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator=3D2C the Cooley DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator=3D2C the McDougall DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator=3D2C the Pickens DNA Project
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>> Instructor=3D2C the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
>> B.A. Humboldt State University=3D2C History
>> =3D20
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>> See http://johncooley.net/list for list information.=3D20
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