Yes, we can certainly be some other undiscovered subclade of L448. There
are undoubtedly additional SNPs to be discovered. But they don't come up
very often. :( The "toolkit" for R1b is comparatively immense.
-Michael
> Is it a foregone conclusion that we should test positive for YP355 if we
> are negative for CTS4179? So you're either/or, corralling us into this
> Norse/English /Gael cluster. Or is it possible that we could still be
> some
> "other" yet to be determined subclade?
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Cooley
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 9:10 PM
> To: John Cooley Mailing List
> Subject: Re: New Y-SNP tree at FTDNA
>
> Yes, I prefer the nomenclature R1a-L448 also Michael. And let me know
> whenev=
> er new downstream Y-DNA SNPs are made available by FTDNA - I will order
> them=
> immediately. Hopefully a few other Cooley men will also. Likely we
> descenda=
> nts of John Cooley of Stokes Co., NC, will all have the same results for
> all=
> Y-DNA SNPs, but of course multiple results are always better than a single
> r=
> esult.
>
> Best Wishes,=20
> Don Cooley
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 4, 2014, at 5:05 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>> wrote=
> :
>>=20
>> I meant also to add that FTDNA is leaving behind the old haplogroup
>> nomenclature represented by our group R1a1a1b1a3a, replacing the
>> reporting=
>
>> with the "shorthand" version, such as R-L448. (I prefer R1a-L228, as
>> it's
>> a little more informative.) All the earlier classifications appear to
>> have=
>
>> disappeared from the results pages and are being *slowly* replaced. It's
>> so slow, in fact, that I can only guess that someone is doing it by
>> hand.
>> :(
>>=20
>> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cooley/default.aspx?section=3Dyresult=
> s
>>=20
>> As I mentioned, three of us have tested positive for the L448 SNP. In
>> addition, FTDNA is reporting the prediction of L448 for four more of us.
>> I=
>
>> suspect that, when they're done, all will have the same prediction
>> reported.
>>=20
>> -Michael
>>=20
>>=20
>>> The new Y-DNA tree has been released. A graphic for R1a has been
>>> publishe=
> d
>>> here (scroll down):
>>>=20
>>> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1a/
>>>=20
>>> You may recall that Don, myself, and one of the William Henry Cooley
>>> descendants has tested positive for the L448 SNP, which is about 2300
>>> years old. Note that a new subclade has been found downstream from us:
>>> YP355. The test is not yet available. Once it is, Don and/or I will
>>> test
>>> for it. (We already know that we're negative for CTS4179.) There has
>>> also=
>
>>> been a new SNP inserted upstream from us, Y2395, tucked in between Z282
>>> and Z284.
>>>=20
>>> Take note of the useful map in the right-hand corner.
>>>=20
>>> -Michael
>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
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>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
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>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
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Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
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Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
B.A. Humboldt State University, History
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