Hi Cathy,
I presume by "the full tests" you're referring to autosomal testing
(Family Finder, Relative Finder, or 23andMe). Those are the 22 pairs of
chromosomes that are neither the X or Y (the sex chromosomes). Unlike the
Y or mitochondrial DNA, their inheritance is pretty random--you get 50%
from each parent, but there's no telling which 50% you get. They *can* be
very confusing and very difficult to interpret, especially since you can
have matches not only because of shared descent but "just cuz'."
I'm happy to answer any questions about any of it.
I've identified several male Cooleys of your lineage who could still be
living. I've yet to locate and contact any of them, however.
-Michael
> Michael,
>
> I follow your mailing list but mostly remain quiet as my line is John
> Cooley
> (1827-1900+) and Sarah Ann Treadwell (or Treadway).
>
> As you know I descend through their daughter Tobitha Ann. I do not have
> any
> contacts with descendants of John's sons Calvin and Timothy. I will make a
> note to check WVCulture.org again to see if any new records have been
> added
> that may help with finding living individuals.
>
> I have been quite busy with my European families as French archives are
> becoming more and more available online. But I always come back to your
> list
> as I really need to learn more about DNA and genealogy. I have a Sims
> cousin
> who has had her brother (direct descendant of my Jeremiah Sims of Culpeper
> Co., VA) tested after she and her son had full tests done. She paid for
> the
> test and we are now waiting on the results. Both she and her son had
> matches
> on Sims but not the same lines. Still very confusing to me but I am trying
> to grasp it.
>
> Will keep you posted on the John Cooley male descendants. (added to my To
> do
> list)
>
> You (and others on this list) are doing a wonderful job.
>
> Best wishes,
> Cathy
>
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>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> In my estimation, we've accomplished a lot since the list reactivated
> about 2-1/2 years ago. The big questions, of course, remain: Where was
> John Cooley born? Who were his parents? Who did he marry?
>
> We've got some clues. There's the undocumented mention in "James Stuart
> and Mary Matthews of Wilcox County, Alabama" that William Matthews
> Cooley's mother was Sarah Matthews, probable daughter of James Matthews
> who, indeed, was living near the family in Stokes County. I fear, however,
> that someone along the way saw the name William Matthews Cooley in the
> Surry County NC records and came to conclusions that aren't necessarily
> true. Nevertheless, we have something to work with.
>
> The genetic match with William Henry Cooley (1797-1877) and James Cooley
> (1808-c1872), both born in Pennsylvania, is tantalizing as a possible
> collateral line, which could one day lead to John's origins.
>
> And there's still work to do in determining more of John's descendants.
> Who, for example, was Perrin C Cooley's father? The Jack Cooley / Gloria
> Tanner autosomal match appears to strengthen the idea that he was of the
> Perrin Cooley Sr family. (The match has also given me much-needed
> confidence in the viability of autosomal testing.)
>
> The mystery of John Cooley (1797-1880+) and Annis Hardin is still
> unresolved. That John was born in Adair County, KY suggests that he was of
> the Daniel Cooley line, but a John Cooley has already been attributed to
> Daniel. I've contacted three or four of his Y descendants but none have
> responded.
>
> And that brings me to the matter of Y-DNA for Daniel. We have yet to have
> a sample from his descendants.
>
> And we still need a Reuben Cooley sample.
>
> There's also the matter of John Cooley (1827-1900+) and Sarah Ann
> Treadwell. John was born in Missouri in 1827. His movements mirrored that
> of William Washington Cooley causing some of us to believe he was another
> son of Isaac N Cooley (James, John). But Isaac's will has been found. It
> doesn't include mention of a John Cooley among his children. Again, DNA
> from a descendant would be helpful. (I've been looking for one!) I'm
> tracking his line at
> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html by
> having listing him as a grayed-out (possible) brother of Perrin C Cooley.
>
> Have I missed anything?
>
> Of course, we've continued to have great success. Thanks to Gloria
> Tanner's discovery of the newspaper notice for James Cooley's (1797-1858)
> estate, we now know that the mysterious John Cooley (m2 Martha Bearden)
> was a son of Perrin Sr.
>
> Jonathan Lycurgus Cooley (1842-1926) appears to be sorted out thanks in
> part to the various newspaper accounts of his sister, Nancy Alice Cooley
> Crockett (1873-1937).
>
> We had the delightful surprise in discovering that a descendant of Edmond
> Cooley (1773-1851), who married Charlotte Speace, is of the exact Y-DNA
> signature of the Stokes County Cooleys. This was totally unexpected. I
> think we can be confident that it was not coincidence that Edmond and John
> Cooley's son-in-law, Luke Burnett, appear on the same Spartanburg, SC
> deed. But we may never know whether he was the Rice Cooley who shows on
> the 1800 Stokes County census. (That would explained Rice's disappearance
> from the record.)
>
> Speaking of Luke Burnett, we've traced his family to his death in Georgia
> in 1859. It remains to be seen whether we will one day find a matrilineal
> descendant of his wife, Hannah Cooley, and, therefore, the mitochondrial
> DNA for her mother "Mrs John Cooley."
>
> Of course, the revival of the list was founded with the discovery of
> William Matthews Cooley's DNA and the sorting out of the major portion of
> his family.
>
> One more thing. Many of you know that my Y-DNA test in 2006 re-energized
> my interest in genealogy and that I've been in hot pursuit of disproving
> the "Dutch Cooley" theory since then. Being co-admin of the Cooley DNA
> Project has given me some influence in getting tests done to sort out the
> various early American Cooley lineages. In the process we've discovered
> that at least five different Y-DNA lineages are represented in Hamil's
> single "Dutch lineage" -- all of them mentioned in her manuscript:
>
> Stokes Cooleys: 13-24-15-11-11-13-12-12-10-13-11-30
> "Joseph T Cooley": 13-23-15-11-10-15-12-12-12-13-13-29
> "Francis Cooley": 13-25-15-10-11-14-12-12-10-13-11-29
> Cooley-Firmin: 13-24-13-10-11-14-12-12-12-13-13-29
> The Dutch Coles: 13-26-10-12-14-12-12-13-13-13-31
>
> Furthermore, a descendant of the New Jersey Cooley-Lippicott line (also
> mentioned in Hamil) is now testing. And I'm looking for an eligible tester
> for John Cooley (1731-1801) of Portsmouth, Ohio, whose son Peter Cooley
> (married Nancy Perry) is mentioned in Hamil. In the end, I wouldn't be
> surprised that we find a dozen or more separate lineages in her
> manuscript. As Elizabeth Cooley of the Cooley Family Association of
> America (whose husband was of the Cooley-Lippicott lineage) said in a 1977
> letter to Dennis Young: "That book of Lura Coolley Hamil has caused us
> plenty of headaches with folks accepting her data as 'gospel proof.' ...It
> should be labeled with a huge 'Skull and cross bones.' Mrs. Hamil went
> about grabbing up anything she felt might go together, has mixed up many
> different Cooley families, etc."
>
> Several of the list members have contributed heavily to our successes. I
> dare not try to list everyone here for fear I'll leave someone out. But a
> perusal of the list archives at http://johncooley.net/list/ quickly
> reveals the fabulous contributors.
>
> Enjoy the holidays folks and have a very Cooley New Year!
>
> -Michael
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Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
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