Hi Mary!
Thanks for the welcome. I hope you are doing well. Yes, I have a
"Cooley-Bowers Family Tree" on Ancestry.com . It's at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/989585/family?cfpid=-2020027102
Best Wishes,
Don
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Mary Lou Cooley <mlcooley_at_q.com> wrote:
> Welcome, Don! I have seen your family tree on Ancestry.
>
> Mary Cooley (wife of Michael Frank Cooley)
>
> From: Cooley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:29 PM
> To: John Cooley Mailing List
> Subject: Re: More DNA results
>
> First of all, hello to all my Cooley family! And thanks to Michael for
> adding me to the list and for his excellent work making the latest and
> Cooley genealogy info and Y-DNA data available to the public.
>
>
> As Michael told you in the intro, I descend from John Cooley's son James.
> From James my Cooley line is: Timothy Goode "Tink" Cooley > John Iven
> Cooley
> > Daniel Iven Cooley > Elmo Franklin Cooley (my father). My full name is
> Donald Wayne Cooley, but call me Don. I was born in Kirksville, Missouri in
> 1952, but my parent's actual home at the time was in Los Angeles, CA. (My
> Mom went to be with her parents a few weeks before I was born because my
> Dad
> was working two jobs.) I went to the University of Colorado in Boulder,
> Colorado and grad school at Stanford University in Palo Alto, CA. I've been
> working as a Senior Research Physicist at SRI International two miles north
> of Stanford the past 32 years. I live in Fremont, CA with my wife Yolanda
> and son Patrick.
>
>
> The Geno 2.0 test looked at Y-DNA 6153 SNPs, see
>
> http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2012/07/national-geographic-and-family-tree-dna.html
> . I received an Excel spreadsheet showing 6129 of my Y-DNA SNPs. (Anyone
> want a copy? In making sense of those results, this link comes in handy
> http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_YDNA_SNP_Index.html ) Anyway, this is far
> to
> many to show on the FTDNA table Michael sent a link to, so they only report
> a few of them there. Because it was discussed, note that CTS4179 was indeed
> tested for in my Geno 2.0 test, I do NOT have the mutation there. So I'm
> CTS4179-.
>
>
> I'm also L176.1-. But, like Michael, I'm L448+. So that means we Cooleys
> are
> R1a1a1b1a3. See the nice chart at
> http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml and maps see
> http://www.semargl.me/en/dna/ydna/map-snp/35/ and
> http://www.geni.com/projects/R1a-L448-Y-DNA/3941 . Regarding the
> difference
> in nomenclature used at different DNA testing sites, I assume that's
> because
> the Y-DNA tree is in a state of flux and not everyone has caught up. Hence,
> I might me listed R-M17 one place, R-L448 another. And R1a1a1 one place and
> R1a1a1b1a3 another. I personally like the designation R-L448.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Don
>
> P.S. According to my new Geno 2.0 DNA test results, I'm only 94.8%
> Cro-Magnon. I'm 3.0% Neanderthal and 2.2% Denisovan.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovan
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> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:57 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com>
> wrote:
> You're right, Jim. L176- doesn't mean there wasn't a close association.
> I'm perplexed by the CTS4179- that the R1a group shows for him because
> it's not listed in Don's results. I have an email off to the admins and
> have posted on the R1a1 facebook page for an explanation.
>
> Here's a couple of things apart from specific markers to chew on...
>
> We show only about a half dozen non-Cooley 12/12 matches. There are none
> at 25 and above. The other R1a1a Cooleys (CF04) show 160 non-Cooley 12/12
> matches and 55 matches to about 23/25. (I think they *might* be of the
> Ferguson clan.) Not only are we rare among Cooleys, we're rare among R1a1a
> Cooleys. I think that means that John came from a small population pool.
> Could that mean that despite the large size of his family that he came
> from a long line of few siblings? Could it mean that he came from a
> region, say somewhere in the Scottish Highlands, that was particularly
> isolated? Or perhaps he was of a more recent migration from Scotland,
> perhaos even post Viking? That we have so many matching Cooleys only
> proves that we've worked hard to get those. But the size of the ftdna
> database is considerable. That we remain rare and *very* Cooley-centric (I
> think I coined a new word!) might be significant.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> > Thanks, Michael, for all the links and for taking the time to help
> > explain what it all means.
> > I'm intrigued by the 15 generations of descent. It's possible that one
> > day we may match
> > up with a Cooley that can reliably trace his line back to the 1500s or
> > beyond. And even
> > though Don didn't test positive for L176, that's not to say that our
> > Cooleys didn't pass
> > through or spend centuries in Scotland before John got on that ship.
> >
> > Thanks, Don, for upgrading to the SNP test. I noticed that your
> > haplogroup is listed as R1a1a1.
> > Is that just an abbreviation for the unwieldy R1a1a1b1a3a?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/25/2013 3:09 PM, ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com wrote:
> >> Donald Wayne Cooley (a descendant of James) has just gotten back his
> >> Geno
> >> 2.0 Y chromosome SNP results. They're posted here under kit #N3690.
> >> (Remember, the Y chromosome passes from father to son only and is
> >> essentially a clone; it changes very little from one generation to the
> >> next.)
> >>
> >> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cooley/default.aspx?section=ysnp
> >>
> >> Those of you who have looked at the Cooley Project's DNA page will be
> >> somewhat familiar with the STR results:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cooley/default.aspx?section=yresults
> >>
> >> Each number represents the number of times a specified series of
> >> chemicals
> >> repeat. It's generally considered that after about 15 generations of
> >> descent too many mutations are introduced to make comparisons reliable.
> >> It's no surprise, then, that all the testers in CF01 match so closely,
> >> as
> >> most of us are known to be about 7 to 9 generations from John.
> >>
> >> SNPs are entirely different. They represent specific, single mutations
> >> of
> >> specifically located chemicals, for example, a change from A to G. The
> >> date at which the mutation occurred can be estimated, in part, by
> >> determining its frequency in respect to the size of a population. For
> >> example, the mutation known as M207 encompasses such a huge portion of
> >> the
> >> Eurasian population that it is estimated to have occurred between 19,900
> >> and 34,300 years ago. For all those generations, that mutation has
> >> passed
> >> from Don's ancient *patrilineal* ancestor to the present day. It's the
> >> mutation that is used to define the mega haplogroup R.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M207
> >>
> >> Don and I have both tested positive for the mutation known as L-448.
> >> This
> >> is considered to have occurred between 1900 and 2300 years ago in Norway
> >> and has been dubbed "Young Scandinavian." Don tested negative for the
> >> presence of L-176.1, which is the Scottish subset of L-448. This is in
> >> line with earlier interpretations of our STR markers: we are likely
> >> distantly related to, not descended from, the 12th century Scottish
> >> chieftain, Somerled.
> >>
> >> Lying downstream from L448 and upstream from L176.1 is CTS4179. The R1a
> >> Project reports that Don is negative for that marker but I don't see
> >> that
> >> it was even tested. I have an email into a project admin about that.
> >>
> >> Many of the younger markers have been recently discovered, and the
> >> interpretations are in a state of flux. Some markers once considered to
> >> be
> >> defining markers are now found to be specific to certain families and
> >> have
> >> been removed from the Y tree. At present, there are very few markers
> >> that
> >> have been verified as being "downstream" from L448. But it is my hope
> >> that
> >> one day we can lay claim to one of these "private" markers as being
> >> specific to our clan of Cooleys.
> >>
> >> -Michael
> >>
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