The KY deed I mentioned earlier is dated 1844. A J C isn't mentioned as an
heir, but he could have died right anytime between 1840-44.
We've talked about the Jonathans before but I'm still not straight on
them. This first listing is from Henry Co TN in 1840, and the widow Amy
was in MO...
Jonathan Cooley 111101-2110001
Amy Cooley 001200-1100010
We know from the KY deeds that Amy/Ann's husband was a Jonathan. We know
that the W G Cooley who shows in Scott Co MO was Joel's son. And Henry
County figured into the 1838 suit over WMC's property. But how do we know
that Amy's Jonathan was the WMC's heir but not the Henry County Jonathan?
Can we be sure which entry above is ours?
-Michael
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> AJC Cooley 1840 Scott County Census....I have AJC (bet you're right on
> Andr=
> ew Jackson Cooley) as son of Amy White? Cooley on same page in census and
> w=
> idowed. Please note the Melvina Pile adjacent to AJC Cooley (I believe a
> re=
> lation from TN?) My relation is AJC's sister Anne Elizabeth Cooley
> (married=
> George W=2C White? Faris) Would love to get more clarity on this family
> as=
> there were 2 Jonathan Cooleys
> > Date: Sat=2C 23 Mar 2013 22:49:19 -0600
>> From: lvcooley5_at_cox.net
>> To: undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net
>> Subject: Re: Cooleys on 1840 MO census
>>=20
>> This 1840 list is really helping me=2C for the first time=2C to keep
>> most=
> of=20
>> these Missouri Cooleys
>> straight=2C so THANK YOU for that! So far=2C I can only fill in some
>> bla=
> nks=20
>> on John and Martha:
>> E.C. and Milo's birth years can fluctuate but I think it's safe to
>> put=20
>> them both in the 0-4 males
>> with Edward in the 5-9. I have Elizabeth's death year at 1884.
>> Martha's=
> =20
>> birth year seems
>> to hover closer to 1809 and we know she was last seen on the 1880 KY=20
>> census. Julia Ann
>> is still a mystery=2C but based of that same census she should have
>> been=
> =20
>> born around 1821=2C
>> which seems a little creepy for Martha to be her biological mother=2C
>> but=
> =20
>> that's all we have
>> at this point.
>>=20
>> I'd bet $5 that AJC is an "Andrew Jackson"=2C especially being on the
>> sam=
> e=20
>> page as the
>> Tennessee Cooleys. Is there no chance that he was a son of Jonathan?
>>=20
>> Jim
>>=20
>> On 3/23/2013 8:10 PM=2C Michael Cooley wrote:
>> > That whole page is transcriptions from the 1840 census. The head of
>> > household could either be the male 30-39 or=2C less likely=2C the
>> femal=
> e
>> > 50-59.
>> >
>> > -Michael
>> >
>> >> What year are you referring to for R. Cooley in Howard County? John
>> >> Cooley=2C
>> >> (Joseph=2C John Sr.) had a son Randolph Harrison Cooley=2C born 1838=
> =2C Howard
>> >> County. I see his name on the list of children but do not know
>> anythi=
> ng
>> >> about him. My guess is that he is named after Randolph White=2C his
>> >> maternal
>> >> grandfather.
>> >> The Harrison name comes in the White family several times. I think
>> it=
> may
>> >> be connected to the Kirkland family which is his wife's family but
>> not
>> >> confirmed. The Kirkland family was also in Mercer Co.=2C Ky.
>> >> Jane Wisdom
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>> >> To: "John Cooley Mailing List"
>> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> >> Sent: Saturday=2C March 23=2C 2013 9:17 PM
>> >> Subject: Cooleys on 1840 MO census
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I started working on this several months ago. Most of it is now
>> done.
>> >>> Knowing what we now know about the Randolph County Cooleys=2C that
>> se=
> ction
>> >>> now makes perfect sense.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/1840-MO.html
>> >>>
>> >>> I have several question marks=2C particularly with the Scott County
>> >>> descendants of WMC. There are several Cooleys at the end of the page
>> =
> who
>> >>> I
>> >>> think aren't ours that I haven't worked with yet.
>> >>>
>> >>> I see only one place where Perrin C Cooley would fit--that's in the
>> >>> household of Perrin Cooley Jr. Of course=2C we have no idea whether
>> t=
> his
>> >>> second male was even a Cooley. For that matter=2C if PC was living
>> wi=
> th
>> >>> someone other than his parents or a brother=2C it could have been
>> wit=
> h a
>> >>> sister or in-law having a name other than Cooley. He could have been
>> >>> anywhere--even outside of Missouri=2C which is possible considering
>> a=
> ll
>> >>> the
>> >>> moves he would come to make. We know=2C however=2C that he was not a
>> =
> son of
>> >>> Jim's John. John's brother William was likely too young to have been
>> =
> the
>> >>> father=2C as is true with Perrin Jr=2C and it seems clear that James
>> =
> had no
>> >>> children. If all of this is correct=2C I see two choices for his
>> >>> placement:
>> >>> Perrin Sr had a fifth son of whom we know nothing=2C or Perrin C
>> belo=
> ngs
>> >>> to
>> >>> one of the other brothers of Perrins--but none seem likely. I
>> suppose
>> >>> it's
>> >>> also possible that Perrin Sr had a illegitimate child whose mother
>> na=
> med
>> >>> Perrin--but that get's into an area we're almost certainly will
>> never=
> be
>> >>> able to prove.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've also made a guess about the teenager living with Perrin Sr. We
>> k=
> now
>> >>> that the John Cooley who shows up living near William Washington
>> Cool=
> ey
>> >>> in
>> >>> OH and WV was born in MO c1827. No descendants of his have
>> DNA-tested=
> so
>> >>> we don't know whether he was even one of ours. But as this page
>> shows=
> =2C
>> >>> the
>> >>> vast majority of Cooleys in MO at this time were descendants of the
>> >>> Stokes
>> >>> County NC Cooleys. But=2C again=2C this young male living with Papa
>> P=
> errin
>> >>> may
>> >>> not have even been a Cooley. It's just more speculation in hopes of
>> >>> stumbling on a legitimate line of inquiry.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have no idea who "R Cooley" in Howard County is. Daniel's son
>> Reube=
> n=2C
>> >>> apparently=2C died in 1832.
>> >>>
>> >>> A J C Cooley of Scott County is also a mystery.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can anyone fill in any of the blanks?
>> >>>
>> >>> -Michael
>> >>>
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> <body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>AJC Cooley 1840 Scott County
> Cen=
> sus....I have AJC (bet you're right on Andrew Jackson Cooley) as son of
> Amy=
>  =3BWhite? Cooley on same page in census and widowed. Please
> note =
> =3Bthe Melvina Pile adjacent to AJC Cooley (I believe a relation from TN?)
> =
> My relation is AJC's sister Anne Elizabeth Cooley (married George W=2C
> Whit=
> e? Faris) Would love to get more clarity on this family as there were 2
> Jon=
> athan Cooleys<br> =3B<BR><div><div
> id=3D"SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>>=
> =3B Date: Sat=2C 23 Mar 2013 22:49:19 -0600<br>>=3B From:
> lvcooley5_at_cox.n=
> et<br>>=3B To: undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net<br>>=3B Subject:
> R=
> e: Cooleys on 1840 MO census<br>>=3B <br>>=3B This 1840 list is really
> =
> helping me=2C for the first time=2C to keep most of <br>>=3B these
> Missou=
> ri Cooleys<br>>=3B straight=2C so THANK YOU for that! So far=2C I can
> on=
> ly fill in some blanks <br>>=3B on John and Martha:<br>>=3B E.C. and
> Mi=
> lo's birth years can fluctuate but I think it's safe to put <br>>=3B
> them=
> both in the 0-4 males<br>>=3B with Edward in the 5-9. I have
> Elizabeth'=
> s death year at 1884. Martha's <br>>=3B birth year seems<br>>=3B to
> hov=
> er closer to 1809 and we know she was last seen on the 1880 KY <br>>=3B
> c=
> ensus. Julia Ann<br>>=3B is still a mystery=2C but based of that same
> ce=
> nsus she should have been <br>>=3B born around 1821=2C<br>>=3B which
> se=
> ems a little creepy for Martha to be her biological mother=2C but <br>>=
> =3B that's all we have<br>>=3B at this point.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B I'd
> be=
> t $5 that AJC is an "Andrew Jackson"=2C especially being on the same
> <br>&g=
> t=3B page as the<br>>=3B Tennessee Cooleys. Is there no chance that he
> w=
> as a son of Jonathan?<br>>=3B <br>>=3B Jim<br>>=3B <br>>=3B On
> 3/23=
> /2013 8:10 PM=2C Michael Cooley wrote:<br>>=3B >=3B That whole page is
> =
> transcriptions from the 1840 census. The head of<br>>=3B >=3B
> household=
> could either be the male 30-39 or=2C less likely=2C the female<br>>=3B
> &=
> gt=3B 50-59.<br>>=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B -Michael<br>>=3B
> >=3B<br=
>>>=3B >=3B>=3B What year are you referring to for R. Cooley in
>> Howard=
> County? John<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B Cooley=2C<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B
> (Jos=
> eph=2C John Sr.) had a son Randolph Harrison Cooley=2C born 1838=2C
> Howard<=
> br>>=3B >=3B>=3B County. I see his name on the list of children but
> =
> do not know anything<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B about him. My guess is that
> he=
> is named after Randolph White=2C his<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B
> maternal<br>&g=
> t=3B >=3B>=3B grandfather.<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B The Harrison name
> com=
> es in the White family several times. I think it may<br>>=3B >=3B>=
> =3B be connected to the Kirkland family which is his wife's family but
> not<=
> br>>=3B >=3B>=3B confirmed. The Kirkland family was also in Mercer
> Co=
> .=2C Ky.<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B Jane Wisdom<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B -----
> Or=
> iginal Message -----<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B From: "Michael Cooley"
> <=3Bmi=
> chael_at_newsummer.com>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B To: "John Cooley Mailing
> L=
> ist" <=3Bundisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>=3B<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=
> =3B Sent: Saturday=2C March 23=2C 2013 9:17 PM<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B
> Subje=
> ct: Cooleys on 1840 MO census<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B=
> <br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B I started working on this several months
> ago.=
> Most of it is now done.<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Knowing what we now
> k=
> now about the Randolph County Cooleys=2C that section<br>>=3B >=3B>=
> =3B>=3B now makes perfect sense.<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B<br>>=3B
> &=
> gt=3B>=3B>=3B
> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/1840-MO.html<br>&=
> gt=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B I have several
> questi=
> on marks=2C particularly with the Scott County<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B>=3B=
> descendants of WMC. There are several Cooleys at the end of the page
> who<b=
> r>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B I<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B think aren't
> our=
> s that I haven't worked with yet.<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B<br>>=3B
> &g=
> t=3B>=3B>=3B I see only one place where Perrin C Cooley would
> fit--that=
> 's in the<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B household of Perrin Cooley Jr. Of
> co=
> urse=2C we have no idea whether this<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B second
> ma=
> le was even a Cooley. For that matter=2C if PC was living with<br>>=3B
> &g=
> t=3B>=3B>=3B someone other than his parents or a brother=2C it could
> ha=
> ve been with a<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B sister or in-law having a name
> =
> other than Cooley. He could have been<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
> anywhere=
> --even outside of Missouri=2C which is possible considering all<br>>=3B
> &=
> gt=3B>=3B>=3B the<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B moves he would come to
> m=
> ake. We know=2C however=2C that he was not a son of<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B&=
> gt=3B Jim's John. John's brother William was likely too young to have been
> =
> the<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B father=2C as is true with Perrin Jr=2C
> and=
> it seems clear that James had no<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B children.
> If=
> all of this is correct=2C I see two choices for his<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B=
> >=3B placement:<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Perrin Sr had a fifth son
> of=
> whom we know nothing=2C or Perrin C belongs<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
> t=
> o<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B one of the other brothers of Perrins--but
> no=
> ne seem likely. I suppose<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B it's<br>>=3B >=
> =3B>=3B>=3B also possible that Perrin Sr had a illegitimate child
> whose=
> mother named<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Perrin--but that get's into an
> a=
> rea we're almost certainly will never be<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B able
> =
> to prove.<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B I've
> al=
> so made a guess about the teenager living with Perrin Sr. We
> know<br>>=3B=
> >=3B>=3B>=3B that the John Cooley who shows up living near William
> W=
> ashington Cooley<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B in<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B>=
> =3B OH and WV was born in MO c1827. No descendants of his have DNA-tested
> s=
> o<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B we don't know whether he was even one of
> our=
> s. But as this page shows=2C<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B the<br>>=3B
> >=
> =3B>=3B>=3B vast majority of Cooleys in MO at this time were
> descendant=
> s of the<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Stokes<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
> C=
> ounty NC Cooleys. But=2C again=2C this young male living with Papa
> Perrin<b=
> r>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B may<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B not have even
> =
> been a Cooley. It's just more speculation in hopes of<br>>=3B >=3B>=
> =3B>=3B stumbling on a legitimate line of inquiry.<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B=
> >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B I have no idea who "R Cooley" in
> Howard=
> County is. Daniel's son Reuben=2C<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
> apparently=
> =2C died in 1832.<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B>=3B=
> A J C Cooley of Scott County is also a mystery.<br>>=3B
> >=3B>=3B>=
> =3B<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Can anyone fill in any of the
> blanks?<br>&=
> gt=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B -Michael<br>>=3B
> &g=
> t=3B>=3B>=3B<br>>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B --<br>>=3B
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