Michael,
Take a look at the page I have for John's patrilineal descendants at
http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html --
The names in red follow the lines that have tested.
This is Ron's lineage:
John Cooley [I] (c1740-1811) poss m Sarah Matthews
John Cooley Sr [II] (1761-1844) m Sarah Willis
John Cooley [III] (1799-1856) m Lavina Willis
John Albert Cooley Jr [IV] (1830-1892) m Rachel M Clark
James Albert Cooley (1863-1919) m Margret May Ammon
John William Cooley (1896-1949) m Francis Bernice Little
James Alfred Cooley (1924-2003) m Dorothy Ann Palm
Ronald Ray Cooley (1955-)
There is a very interesting thing about the test results of Albert's
apparent son.
Here's column 12 here:
http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/ydna.html
The results at loci 36 show 18 repeats, which is way different from the
others tested. I'm now wondering if I typoed. But I don't know where
ancestry.com keeps their dna results to check, and I'm not a member.
> LOL! They actually had to put for men only at the top of the Y dna marker
> test :)
> Lemme see where the finances are between xmas and tax refund time and I
> will probably do one of the tests.
> So it will be a few months still. Unless there was a mix up at the
> hospital it should be the same as Albert's though :)
>
> Which one is considered John2 and 4? My old computer had links for the
> tree back to a 1740ish John, and I remember
> he had a John as a kid. My mind is fuzzy after that.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Casey Co., KY - COOLEY
>
> I've always assumed it was one of Albert's kids who tested. He did it
> through ancestry.com. I've never been able to contact him. And Ron Cooley
> recently tested. Like you, he's descended from John II. In fact, he's
> descended from John IV!
>
> ftdna.com is the best place to test. I always recommend the 37-marker test
> ($149):
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Cooley
>
> -Michael
>
>> Yeah I occasionally wonder how much it would cost to do one of those DNA
>> kits.
>> You had one of Albert's kids test for you didn't you? Albert and his
>> family moved to
>> San Antonio before I can remember. Do you have a link for testing
>> websites
>> you recommend?
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: Casey Co., KY - COOLEY
>>
>> Hi "Other Michael" :)
>>
>> There were a lot of Cooleys from Ireland--and elsewhere that came over
>> because of the potato famine. I think, however, that they were planted
>> in
>> Ireland a few generations earlier along with other Scots and Englishmen.
>>
>> I've heard from a couple of sources that hardly any Cooleys can be found
>> in Ireland today. The largest concentration of the name is found in the
>> north of England, near the Scottish boarder.
>>
>> And the Y chromosome supports Anglo/Scottish origins. Our Y shows
>> descent
>> from the Norse-Scottish.
>>
>> Finally, virtually every Cooley I have found who immigrated to America
>> by
>> 1800 (the era that I'm principally interested in) is documented as being
>> from England.
>> Here's some of what I collected:
>> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/#english
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>> I was reading where someone named Bill Cooley was saying that Cooley
>>> wasn't an Irish name because there are no Cooley's there now.
>>> Here is my wet paper thin arguement against this statement.
>>>
>>> Ok I can't prove this or anything now but when I was in college I found
>>> some Irish census data and a family name dictionary at EKU
>>> The first census I found with Cooley's had them all in Northern
>>> Ireland,
>>> the very next census had half that number but all near Southern Ireland
>>> the very next census after that had 0 Cooley's in Ireland. I found
>>> records
>>> where Cooley's were shipped to Australia and America -
>>> usually listed as horse or cattle thieves. The name Cooley according to
>>> the book I found had 2 listed meanings.
>>> (Warrior or Dog) of Ulster. If any of this has been officially debunked
>>> I
>>> must apologize I did this research for a class
>>> in 1987. I didn't question this at the time because it pretty much fit
>>> what I had been told about the family, from the family :)
>>>
>>> Again, thanks
>>> the other Michael Cooley
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Michael Cooley <cooley.michael_at_yahoo.com>
>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Casey Co., KY - COOLEY
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey that is my John sr :) Being that I am a Casey Co Cooley hehe (til I
>>> went to college anyway)
>>> I haven't checked much lately but did you guys ever put a finger on
>>> where
>>> he came from inEurope?
>>> The family folk tales said we were Irish but that he came over way
>>> before
>>> the potato famine and all that.
>>> I know the Michael that runs the list is definitely the expert on the
>>> subject
>>> I should prolly change my name on the list to "the other Michael" :)
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Casey Co., KY - COOLEY
>>>
>>> Hi Curt,
>>>
>>> John Sr was on the 1810 census of Casey county, and on the Casey county
>>> tax lists in 1807, 08, 10 and 11, the probable year of his death.
>>>
>>> What was the Cooley 1809 entry?
>>>
>>> Did you ask if there were any loose records for the period?
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>> Michael, no mention of old John in Casey Co. Clerk says the county
>>>> was
>>>> formed 1806 so John may have died before that in Lincoln Co. Earliest
>>>> COOLEY entry I found was in the Will Book, Vol 1, page 1 dated
>>>> 12Jun1809
>>>>
>>>> Reuben was the most active early on, later John got active (I assume
>>>> this was Jr.). Got some of Jr's probate stuff dated, I think,
>>>> 1843ish.
>>>>
>>>> I have the files reoriented, trimmed and sized. Next to rename the
>>>> files and build a page for them. Tedious.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Curt, on the road from Phoenix
>>>>
>>> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=curti_m
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
>>> information.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> President, the Genealogy Club of Humboldt State University
>> Administrator, the Eldridge Family DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst Family DNA Project (in the works)
>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley Family DNA Project
>> Instructor (upcoming this fall), "Genealogy and Family History" at
>> the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI), through HSU
>>
>> --
>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
>> information.
>
>
> --
> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
> President, the Genealogy Club of Humboldt State University
> Administrator, the Eldridge Family DNA Project
> Administrator, the Ashenhurst Family DNA Project (in the works)
> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
> Co-Administrator, the Cooley Family DNA Project
> Instructor (upcoming this fall), "Genealogy and Family History" at
> the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI), through HSU
>
> --
> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
> information.
--
Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
President, the Genealogy Club of Humboldt State University
Administrator, the Eldridge Family DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst Family DNA Project (in the works)
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley Family DNA Project
Instructor (upcoming this fall), "Genealogy and Family History" at
the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI), through HSU
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