RE: More Mildred Tallant from Michael Cooley on 2014-02-11 (John Cooley Mailing List)

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:20:10 -0800

Hi Brad,

We do believe that John was WMC's family. Apart from the matching DNA, the
timeline at this page pretty much spells it out:
http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/StewartCoTN.html

Now, there's nothing that says "William, son of John." That may need to be
a footnote for this lineage forever. But the DNA and genealogical evidence
is overwhelming. They were certainly closely related, if not father and
son.

-Michael

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>
> --
> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9b</a>
> See http://johncooley.net/list for list information.
>

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Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
B.A. Humboldt State University, History

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