Re: Arthur Kiergan & family on 1850 census in Missouri

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:44:32 -0700

Jane,

We're looking at the Joseph Cooley who was a step-son of Benjamin
Kiergan--Dorothy (Cooley) Cooley Kiergan's son, as per the Arthur Kiergan
letters.

-Michael

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> Sandy, which Joseph Cooley are you looking for killed in the Civil War? =
> Joseph, born 1843, the son of William Cooley, born 1818 was not killed =
> but served in Confederate prison with his father and both returned home. =
> The brother, John Samuel died in southern prison somewhere. =20
> Jane
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Sandra Stanton=20
> To: John Cooley Mailing List=20
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Arthur Kiergan & family on 1850 census in Missouri
>
>
> The 1860 census for Joseph Cooley stated he was 24 years old -- making =
> his birth about 1836. To me it sounds more like the son of Cornelius.
> I have been trying to find civil war death records to check on Joseph =
> Cooley death on 8 Feb 1863--so far no luck.
>
> Sandy
>
>
>
>
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> -----
> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 5:56:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Arthur Kiergan & family on 1850 census in Missouri
>
> Hi Jane,
>
> It's here:
>
> 1860 > MISSOURI > CHARITON > KEYTESVILLE TWP
> Series: M653 Roll: 613 Page: 234
>
> I'm cafe I'm at is closing now so I can't look, but he was in his =
> early
> 20s, born in the 1830s.
>
> -Michael
>
> > William Cooley, son of John(Joseph) married Elizabeth Fields. I do =
> not
> > have
> > a lot of information on the Fields family but according to a bio of =
> Joseph
> > T. Cooley,
> > his mother, Elizabeth Fields Cooley had two brothers or uncles =
> living in
> > Randolph or Howard County.
> > One was named William and the other, Samuel Fields.
> > What county and what year did you find Joseph Cooley living with =
> William
> > Fields? This William Cooley's son named Joseph, was born in 1843. =
> They
> > were together serving in the Civil War so this may be the Joseph =
> living
> > with
> > William Fields.
> > Jane Wisdom
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> > To: "John Cooley Mailing List" =
> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: Arthur Kiergan & family on 1850 census in Missouri
> >
> >
> >> Sandy,
> >>
> >> I found several references to the Cooley/Smith marriage =
> online--much of
> >> it
> >> from the earlier list. I think it's also in Dale Walker's letters =
> and,
> >> of
> >> course, the letter from Ray county to Tallant.
> >>
> >> I think I found her son Joseph Cooley on the 1860, living with the
> >> William
> >> Fields family:
> >>
> >> 1860 > MISSOURI > CHARITON > KEYTESVILLE TWP
> >> Series: M653 Roll: 613 Page: 234
> >>
> >> And looking at Kiergan's letter again, John died about age 12, =
> which
> >> could
> >> have made it not long after the 1850 census entry.
> >>
> >> Mathias has patrilineal descendants living. I'd sure like to hold =
> of the
> >> Y
> >> chromosome for one of them. :) It would be fascinating to be able =
> sort
> >> out
> >> the story. I think you were close to breaking through on it in 2009 =
> when
> >> you asked Rick if he thought the Dorothy Cooley who married Joel =
> Smith
> >> could have been Mathias's mother.
> >>
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >>> My thought is that Michael could have been the oldest son and had =
> gone
> >>> to
> >>> Utah
> >>> by the 1850 census. However, then there isn't a place for Mathias =
> who
> >>> was
> >>> born
> >>> c. 1837. Another thought that Michael was born after the 1840 =
> census
> >>> and
> >>> was
> >>> given away or died when the father died. Then what AK said about
> >>> Michael
> >>> being
> >>> killed by the Mormons in Utah could have what was told to him as a
> >>> coverup
> >>> for
> >>> the missing Mathias. Gee, I really don't know what to think- just
> >>> spinning my
> >>> wheels on t his.
> >>>
> >>> I tried to find the marriage of Ben Kiergan and Dorothy =
> Cooley/Smith in
> >>> Ray
> >>> county, but the film is so poor you can't read it nor could the
> >>> indexer.
> >>> Also,
> >>> can't find where I found a Dorothy Cooley marrying a Joel Smith. =
> Too
> >>> bad
> >>> Dorothy Kiergan died in 1851 as we might have been able to get =
> more
> >>> information.
> >>>
> >>> I have tried finding them in the 1860 census but so far no luck.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> >>> To: John Cooley Mailing List =
> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> >>> Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 2:38:24 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Arthur Kiergan & family on 1850 census in Missouri
> >>>
> >>> I did. :) It's just a thought. I think there's an interesting =
> story
> >>> there,
> >>> though. If there were four sons and if the 1840 census is correct,
> >>> Michael
> >>> would have had to have been born c1840 or soon after. In which =
> case, he
> >>> should be shown on the 185o census, unless dead.
> >>>
> >>> Do you think the Dorothy Cooley/Smith marriage can slip in between
> >>> Cornelius's death and Arthur Kiergan's birth?
> >>>
> >>> That the whole family is listed as "Vergin" might have been yet =
> another
> >>> error by the census taker. I haven't tried looking for them in =
> 1860
> >>> yet.
> >>> Joseph Cooley/Kiergan should be there.
> >>>
> >>> -Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I think you meant to say Mathias not Matthew.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> >>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List =
> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> >>>> Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 11:54:00 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Arthur Kiergan & family on 1850 census in Missouri
> >>>>
> >>>> Mary,
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, the letters do take some time to sort out. And I recall the =
> same
> >>>> things. I think at one point he mentioned that all his =
> half-brothers
> >>>> and
> >>>> half-sisters are buried at the same cemetery, but I'd have to =
> look at
> >>>> that
> >>>> again.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm wondering if he had Michael and Matthew mixed up. He =
> obviously
> >>>> never
> >>>> met Matthew and may have never known the true circumstances. =
> There's a
> >>>> mystery there. Joseph and John took their step-father's name and
> >>>> Mathew
> >>>> was adopted, apparently, by another family, and moved with his =
> cousins
> >>>> to
> >>>> Oregon. Could Arthur have been lied to so as to cover up the =
> truth,
> >>>> and
> >>>> he
> >>>> just never learned otherwise?
> >>>>
> >>>> Arthur's family are the only Kiergans I find at findagrave.com:
> >>>>
> =
>>>>>http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=3Dgsr&GSfn=3D&GSmn=3D&G=
> Sln=3Dkiergan&GSbyrel=3Dall&GSby=3D&GSdyrel=3Din&GSdy=3D&GScntry=3D4&GSst=
> =3D26&GScnty=3D0&GSgrid=3D&df=3Dall&GSob=3Dn
> >>>>n
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> There are Kirgans but I don't recognize any of the names.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>> Benjamin E Kiergan did have a widow in 1865 who applied for his =
> CW
> >>>>> pension:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kiergan, Benjamin E.
> >>>>> Widow: Kiergan, Frances E.
> >>>>> Minor: Baker, Joseph, Gdn
> >>>>> Service: F 44 MO Inf
> >>>>> Date of filings:
> >>>>> 1865, Mar 31, Widow, Application: 88026; Certificate No.: 75.295
> >>>>> 1867, Nov 13, Minor, Application No.: 154516; Certificate No.:
> >>>>> 120.889
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Didn't Arthur Kiergan write that after his mother's death, that =
> he
> >>>>> lived
> >>>>> with his Grandmother Elizabeth (White) Cooley for a few years? =
> In his
> >>>>> letter of 27 Apr 1932 he wrote that his father remarried after
> >>>>> Dorothy's
> >>>>> death. (I read the letters and got lost - so willl have to work =
> on
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> later).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We will be gone for a few days...Happy hunting!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mary Cooley
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Michael Cooley
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:24 AM
> >>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Arthur Kiergan & family on 1850 census in Missouri
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And Sandy mentioned this in an earlier exchange:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Dorothy Cooley married Joel Smith 12 Feb 1843 Platte County,
> >>>>> Missouri"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see in the Mildred Tallant archive that this marriage is =
> mentioned
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> letter from the Clay county recorder.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, let's consider that perhaps it was a marriage between =
> Dorothy
> >>>>> "Smith"
> >>>>> and Benjamin Kiergan that's missing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Michael
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's part of an email from Rick Ernst not long before the =
> 2010
> >>>>>> reunion...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --quote--
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One of the perplexing issues I'm still dealing with is =
> Cornelius and
> >>>>>> Dolly (White) Cooley, and their three children, other than my
> >>>>>> gg-grandfather. Legend has it that Mathias was an orphan, as
> >>>>>> documented
> >>>>>> in "The Terrible Trail." However, family has passed down that =
> the
> >>>>>> family
> >>>>>> couldn't support four children, so when the last baby was born,
> >>>>>> making
> >>>>>> four, the older two were sent to live with cousins. I found =
> court
> >>>>>> records regarding Cornelius and William, both sons of James, =
> and
> >>>>>> various
> >>>>>> charges from betting and retailing (liquor) to attempted =
> murder.
> >>>>>> Then
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>> found where the sheriff reported that Cornelius was dead, but =
> no
> >>>>>> information as to the whereabouts of Dolly and the children, or =
> if
> >>>>>> she
> >>>>>> was dead too. Somehow only Mathias remains. Since they were all
> >>>>>> boys,
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>> would guess that the first two were likely named James and
> >>>>>> Cornelius,
> >>>>>> after the father and grandfather, and likely the fourth was =
> named
> >>>>>> William, after a favorite brother, like Mathias was.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When all the information on Scott Cooley started flowing in, I =
> hoped
> >>>>>> I'd
> >>>>>> find where Dolly and the kids moved to Texas, but nothing =
> panned
> >>>>>> out.
> >>>>>> If
> >>>>>> Dolly was a nickname, I may never find her.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Perhaps Dolly and the three children went to Tennessee in 1843, =
> to
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> away from the place where Cornelius was killed. It's another =
> place
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> look anyway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --endquote--
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No wonder this was so lost!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John and Joseph were certainly the half-brothers Cooley. =
> Perhaps
> >>>>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>> was already out of the house or had died already.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Good work, Mary!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Michael
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I just found the Kiergan family! This is what I found:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Brunswick, Chariton Co., MO
> >>>>>>>> 12 Nov 1850, pg 227 B
> >>>>>>>> Family 498 (numbers VERY faded):
> >>>>>>>> Benjamin Vergin, 30, male, farmer, Ten
> >>>>>>>> Dorothy Vergin, 35, female, MO, cannot read or write
> >>>>>>>> Joseph Vergin, 15, male, MO
> >>>>>>>> John Vergin, 12, male, MO
> >>>>>>>> Arthur Vergin, 3, male, MO
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mary Cooley
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >>>>>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for =
> list
> >>>>>>>> information.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >>>>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for =
> list
> >>>>>>> information.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >>>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for =
> list
> >>>>>> information.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for =
> list
> >>>>> information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >>>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for =
> list
> >>>>> information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >>>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
> >>>> information.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
> >>> information.
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> >> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
> >> information.
> >>
> >
> > --
> > <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
> > See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
> > information.
> >
>
> --
> <a href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
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> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sandy, which Joseph Cooley are =
> you looking=20
> for killed in the Civil War?&nbsp; Joseph,&nbsp; born 1843, the son of =
> William=20
> Cooley, born 1818 was not killed but served in Confederate prison with =
> his=20
> father and both returned home.&nbsp; &nbsp;The brother, John =
> Samuel&nbsp;died in=20
> southern prison somewhere.&nbsp; </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jane</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dsandystanton_at_prodigy.net=20
> href=3D"mailto:sandystanton_at_prodigy.net">Sandra Stanton</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
> title=3Dundisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net=20
> href=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">John Cooley =
> Mailing=20
> List</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 22, 2012 =
> 8:23 PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Arthur Kiergan =
> &amp; family=20
> on 1850 census in Missouri</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, =
> times, serif">
> <DIV>The 1860 census for Joseph Cooley stated he was 24 years old -- =
> making=20
> his birth about 1836.&nbsp; To me it sounds more like the son of=20
> Cornelius.</DIV>
> <DIV>I have been trying to find civil war death records to check on =
> Joseph=20
> Cooley death on 8 Feb 1863--so far no luck.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Sandy<BR></DIV>
> <DIV=20
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> sans-serif"><FONT=20
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> <HR SIZE=3D1>
> <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Michael Cooley =
> <<A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</A>><BR><B=
>><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> John Cooley Mailing List =
> <<A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">undisclosed.recipie=
> nts_at_johncooley.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, June 22, 2012 =
> 5:56:38=20
> PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: =
> Arthur=20
> Kiergan &amp; family on 1850 census in Missouri<BR></FONT><BR>Hi=20
> Jane,<BR><BR>It's here:<BR><BR>1860 > MISSOURI > CHARITON >=20
> KEYTESVILLE TWP<BR>Series: M653 Roll: 613 Page: 234<BR><BR>I'm cafe =
> I'm at is=20
> closing now so I can't look, but he was in his early<BR>20s, born in =
> the=20
> 1830s.<BR><BR>-Michael<BR><BR>> William Cooley, son of John(Joseph) =
> married=20
> Elizabeth Fields.&nbsp; I do not<BR>> have<BR>> a lot of =
> information on=20
> the Fields family but according to a bio of Joseph<BR>> T. =
> Cooley,<BR>>=20
> his mother, Elizabeth Fields Cooley had two brothers or uncles living=20
> in<BR>> Randolph or Howard County.<BR>> One was named William =
> and the=20
> other, Samuel Fields.<BR>> What county and what year did you find =
> Joseph=20
> Cooley living with William<BR>> Fields?&nbsp; This William Cooley's =
> son=20
> named Joseph, was born&nbsp; in 1843.&nbsp; They<BR>> were together =
> serving=20
> in the Civil War so this may be the Joseph living<BR>> with<BR>> =
> William=20
> Fields.<BR>> Jane Wisdom<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original =
> Message=20
> -----<BR>> From: "Michael Cooley" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com"=20
> =
> ymailto=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</A>><BR=
>>>=20
> To: "John Cooley Mailing List" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net"=20
> =
> ymailto=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">undisclosed.reci=
> pients_at_johncooley.net</A>><BR>>=20
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:16 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Arthur =
> Kiergan &amp;=20
> family on 1850 census in Missouri<BR>><BR>><BR>>>=20
> Sandy,<BR>>><BR>>> I found several references to the =
> Cooley/Smith=20
> marriage online--much of<BR>>> it<BR>>> from the earlier =
> list. I=20
> think it's also in Dale Walker's letters and,<BR>>> =
> of<BR>>>=20
> course, the letter from Ray county to Tallant.<BR>>><BR>>> =
> I think=20
> I found her son Joseph Cooley on the 1860, living with the<BR>>> =
>
> William<BR>>> Fields family:<BR>>><BR>>> 1860 > =
> MISSOURI=20
> > CHARITON > KEYTESVILLE TWP<BR>>> Series: M653 Roll: 613 =
> Page:=20
> 234<BR>>><BR>>> And looking at Kiergan's letter again, =
> John died=20
> about age 12, which<BR>>> could<BR>>> have made it not =
> long after=20
> the 1850 census entry.<BR>>><BR>>> Mathias has patrilineal =
>
> descendants living. I'd sure like to hold of the<BR>>> =
> Y<BR>>>=20
> chromosome for one of them. :) It would be fascinating to be able=20
> sort<BR>>> out<BR>>> the story. I think you were close to =
> breaking=20
> through on it in 2009 when<BR>>> you asked Rick if he thought =
> the=20
> Dorothy Cooley who married Joel Smith<BR>>> could have been =
> Mathias's=20
> mother.<BR>>><BR>>> -Michael<BR>>><BR>>>> =
> My=20
> thought is that Michael could have been the oldest son and had=20
> gone<BR>>>> to<BR>>>> Utah<BR>>>> by the =
> 1850=20
> census. However, then there isn't a place for Mathias =
> who<BR>>>>=20
> was<BR>>>> born<BR>>>> c. 1837. Another thought that =
> Michael=20
> was born after the 1840 census<BR>>>> and<BR>>>>=20
> was<BR>>>> given away or died when the father died. Then what =
> AK said=20
> about<BR>>>> Michael<BR>>>> being<BR>>>> =
> killed by=20
> the Mormons in Utah could have what was told to him as =
> a<BR>>>>=20
> coverup<BR>>>> for<BR>>>> the missing Mathias. Gee, =
> I really=20
> don't know what to think- just<BR>>>> spinning =
> my<BR>>>>=20
> wheels on t his.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I tried to find the =
> marriage=20
> of Ben Kiergan and Dorothy Cooley/Smith in<BR>>>> =
> Ray<BR>>>>=20
> county, but the film is so poor you can't read it nor could=20
> the<BR>>>> indexer.<BR>>>> Also,<BR>>>> =
> can't find=20
> where I found a Dorothy Cooley marrying a Joel Smith. =
> Too<BR>>>>=20
> bad<BR>>>> Dorothy Kiergan died in 1851 as we might have been =
> able to=20
> get more<BR>>>> information.<BR>>>><BR>>>> =
> I have=20
> tried finding them in the 1860 census but so far no=20
> =
> luck.<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=
>>>>=20
> ________________________________<BR>>>> From: Michael Cooley =
> <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com"=20
> =
> ymailto=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</A>><BR=
>>>>>=20
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net"=20
> =
> ymailto=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">undisclosed.reci=
> pients_at_johncooley.net</A>><BR>>>>=20
> Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 2:38:24 PM<BR>>>> Subject: Re: =
> Arthur=20
> Kiergan &amp; family on 1850 census in=20
> Missouri<BR>>>><BR>>>> I did. :) It's just a =
> thought. I=20
> think there's an interesting story<BR>>>> =
> there,<BR>>>>=20
> though. If there were four sons and if the 1840 census is=20
> correct,<BR>>>> Michael<BR>>>> would have had to =
> have been=20
> born c1840 or soon after. In which case, he<BR>>>> should be =
> shown on=20
> the 185o census, unless dead.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Do you =
> think the=20
> Dorothy Cooley/Smith marriage can slip in between<BR>>>> =
> Cornelius's=20
> death and Arthur Kiergan's birth?<BR>>>><BR>>>> That =
> the=20
> whole family is listed as "Vergin" might have been yet =
> another<BR>>>>=20
> error by the census taker. I haven't tried looking for them in=20
> 1860<BR>>>> yet.<BR>>>> Joseph Cooley/Kiergan should =
> be=20
> there.<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> -Michael<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> I think =
> you meant=20
> to say Mathias not=20
> =
> Matthew.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>&=
> gt;>>><BR>>>>>=20
> ________________________________<BR>>>>> From: Michael =
> Cooley=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com"=20
> =
> ymailto=3D"mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</A>><BR=
>>>>>>=20
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net"=20
> =
> ymailto=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">undisclosed.reci=
> pients_at_johncooley.net</A>><BR>>>>>=20
> Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 11:54:00 AM<BR>>>>> Subject: Re: =
> Arthur=20
> Kiergan &amp; family on 1850 census in=20
> Missouri<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>=20
> Mary,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Yes, the letters do take =
> some=20
> time to sort out. And I recall the same<BR>>>>> things. I =
> think at=20
> one point he mentioned that all his half-brothers<BR>>>>>=20
> and<BR>>>>> half-sisters are buried at the same cemetery, =
> but I'd=20
> have to look at<BR>>>>> that<BR>>>>>=20
> again.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I'm wondering if he had =
> Michael=20
> and Matthew mixed up. He obviously<BR>>>>>=20
> never<BR>>>>> met Matthew and may have never known the =
> true=20
> circumstances. There's a<BR>>>>> mystery there. Joseph and =
> John=20
> took their step-father's name and<BR>>>>>=20
> Mathew<BR>>>>> was adopted, apparently, by another family, =
> and=20
> moved with his cousins<BR>>>>> to<BR>>>>> =
> Oregon.=20
> Could Arthur have been lied to so as to cover up the=20
> truth,<BR>>>>> and<BR>>>>> =
> he<BR>>>>> just=20
> never learned otherwise?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> =
> Arthur's=20
> family are the only Kiergans I find at=20
> findagrave.com:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=3Dgsr&amp;GSfn=3D&a=
> mp;GSmn=3D&amp;GSln=3Dkiergan&amp;GSbyrel=3Dall&amp;GSby=3D&amp;GSdyrel=3D=
> in&amp;GSdy=3D&amp;GScntry=3D4&amp;GSst=3D26&amp;GScnty=3D0&amp;GSgrid=3D=
> &amp;df=3Dall&amp;GSob=3Dn"=20
> =
> target=3D_blank>http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=3Dgsr&amp;G=
> Sfn=3D&amp;GSmn=3D&amp;GSln=3Dkiergan&amp;GSbyrel=3Dall&amp;GSby=3D&amp;G=
> Sdyrel=3Din&amp;GSdy=3D&amp;GScntry=3D4&amp;GSst=3D26&amp;GScnty=3D0&amp;=
> GSgrid=3D&amp;df=3Dall&amp;GSob=3Dn</A><BR>>>>>n<BR>>>&=
> gt;><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>=20
> There are Kirgans but I don't recognize any of the=20
> names.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>=20
> -Michael<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>> Benjamin E =
> Kiergan did=20
> have a widow in 1865 who applied for his CW<BR>>>>>>=20
> pension:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Kiergan, =
> Benjamin=20
> E.<BR>>>>>> Widow: Kiergan, Frances =
> E.<BR>>>>>>=20
> Minor: Baker, Joseph, Gdn<BR>>>>>> Service: F 44 MO=20
> Inf<BR>>>>>> Date of filings:<BR>>>>>> =
> 1865, Mar=20
> 31, Widow, Application: 88026; Certificate No.: =
> 75.295<BR>>>>>>=20
> 1867, Nov 13, Minor, Application No.: 154516; Certificate=20
> No.:<BR>>>>>>=20
> 120.889<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Didn't Arthur =
> Kiergan=20
> write that after his mother's death, that he<BR>>>>>>=20
> lived<BR>>>>>> with his Grandmother Elizabeth (White) =
> Cooley=20
> for a few years? In his<BR>>>>>> letter of 27 Apr 1932 =
> he wrote=20
> that his father remarried after<BR>>>>>>=20
> Dorothy's<BR>>>>>> death. (I read the letters and got =
> lost - so=20
> willl have to work on<BR>>>>>> =
> them<BR>>>>>>=20
> later).<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> We will be =
> gone for a=20
> few days...Happy =
> hunting!!<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=20
> Mary=20
> =
> Cooley<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>&gt=
> ;>=20
> -----Original Message-----<BR>>>>>> From: Michael=20
> Cooley<BR>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:24=20
> AM<BR>>>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing=20
> List<BR>>>>>> Subject: Re: Arthur Kiergan &amp; family =
> on 1850=20
> census in Missouri<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> And =
> Sandy=20
> mentioned this in an earlier=20
> exchange:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> "Dorothy =
> Cooley=20
> married Joel Smith 12 Feb 1843 Platte County,<BR>>>>>>=20
> Missouri"<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> I see in the =
> Mildred=20
> Tallant archive that this marriage is =
> mentioned<BR>>>>>>=20
> in<BR>>>>>> a<BR>>>>>> letter from the =
> Clay=20
> county recorder.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Now, =
> let's=20
> consider that perhaps it was a marriage between=20
> Dorothy<BR>>>>>> "Smith"<BR>>>>>> and =
> Benjamin=20
> Kiergan that's =
> missing.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=20
> -Michael<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Here's =
> part of an=20
> email from Rick Ernst not long before the =
> 2010<BR>>>>>>>=20
> reunion...<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=20
> --quote--<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> One =
> of the=20
> perplexing issues I'm still dealing with is Cornelius=20
> and<BR>>>>>>> Dolly (White) Cooley, and their three=20
> children, other than my<BR>>>>>>> gg-grandfather. =
> Legend has=20
> it that Mathias was an orphan, as<BR>>>>>>>=20
> documented<BR>>>>>>> in "The Terrible Trail." =
> However,=20
> family has passed down that the<BR>>>>>>>=20
> family<BR>>>>>>> couldn't support four children, so =
> when the=20
> last baby was born,<BR>>>>>>>=20
> making<BR>>>>>>> four, the older two were sent to =
> live with=20
> cousins. I found court<BR>>>>>>> records regarding =
> Cornelius=20
> and William, both sons of James, and<BR>>>>>>>=20
> various<BR>>>>>>> charges from betting and retailing =
>
> (liquor) to attempted murder.<BR>>>>>>>=20
> Then<BR>>>>>>> I<BR>>>>>>> found =
> where the=20
> sheriff reported that Cornelius was dead, but =
> no<BR>>>>>>>=20
> information as to the whereabouts of Dolly and the children, or=20
> if<BR>>>>>>> she<BR>>>>>>> was =
> dead too.=20
> Somehow only Mathias remains. Since they were =
> all<BR>>>>>>>=20
> boys,<BR>>>>>>> I<BR>>>>>>> would =
> guess=20
> that the first two were likely named James =
> and<BR>>>>>>>=20
> Cornelius,<BR>>>>>>> after the father and =
> grandfather, and=20
> likely the fourth was named<BR>>>>>>> William, after =
> a=20
> favorite brother, like Mathias=20
> was.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> When all =
> the=20
> information on Scott Cooley started flowing in, I=20
> hoped<BR>>>>>>> I'd<BR>>>>>>> find =
> where=20
> Dolly and the kids moved to Texas, but nothing=20
> panned<BR>>>>>>> out.<BR>>>>>>>=20
> If<BR>>>>>>> Dolly was a nickname, I may never find=20
> her.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Perhaps =
> Dolly and=20
> the three children went to Tennessee in 1843, =
> to<BR>>>>>>>=20
> get<BR>>>>>>> away from the place where Cornelius =
> was=20
> killed. It's another place<BR>>>>>>>=20
> to<BR>>>>>>> look=20
> anyway.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=20
> =
> --endquote--<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>&=
> gt;>>>>>>=20
> No wonder this was so=20
> lost!<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> =
> John and=20
> Joseph were certainly the half-brothers Cooley.=20
> Perhaps<BR>>>>>>>>=20
> Michael<BR>>>>>>>> was already out of the house =
> or had=20
> died =
> already.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> =
>
> Good work,=20
> Mary!<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=20
> =
> -Michael<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>&=
> gt; I=20
> just found the Kiergan family! This is what I=20
> =
> found:<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&gt=
> ;>=20
> Brunswick, Chariton Co., MO<BR>>>>>>>>> 12 Nov =
> 1850,=20
> pg 227 B<BR>>>>>>>>> Family 498 (numbers VERY=20
> faded):<BR>>>>>>>>> Benjamin Vergin, 30, male, =
> farmer,=20
> Ten<BR>>>>>>>>> Dorothy Vergin, 35, female, =
> MO, cannot=20
> read or write<BR>>>>>>>>> Joseph Vergin, 15, =
> male,=20
> MO<BR>>>>>>>>> John Vergin, 12, male,=20
> MO<BR>>>>>>>>> Arthur Vergin, 3, male,=20
> =
> MO<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>&gt=
> ;=20
> Mary=20
> =
> Cooley<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&gt=
> ;>=20
> --<BR>>>>>>>>> <a href=3D"<A=20
> href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist"=20
> target=3D_blank>http://newsummer.com/distlist</A>">distlist=20
> 0.9</a><BR>>>>>>>>> See <A=20
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> =
> target=3D_blank>http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/</A> =
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> href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist"=20
> target=3D_blank>http://newsummer.com/distlist</A>">distlist=20
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> =
> target=3D_blank>http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/</A> =
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> list<BR>>>>>>>>=20
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> target=3D_blank>http://newsummer.com/distlist</A>">distlist=20
> 0.9</a><BR>>>>>>> See <A=20
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> =
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> =
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> href=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist"=20
> target=3D_blank>http://newsummer.com/distlist</A>">distlist=20
> 0.9</a><BR>>>>> See <A=20
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> =
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> =
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> =
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> =
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> =
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