Re: Another "English descent" reference

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 20:08:23 -0700

I'd like to see that!

> That I did know, about Pleasant.  By the by, I have a photo of Pleasant. 
> If anyone wants it, I will scan same and send it along to everyone.  It
> only takes one yes vote.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference
>
> BTW, Dave, you probably know that Scott's bother Pleasant died Feb. 5,
> 1922 in Comanche co OK. There is an unnamed Cooley buried in the same
> cemetery plot section in 1899. I wonder if he was one of the brothers. I
> think a DNA test is in order. I'll bring the shovel!
>
> Birth: unknown
> Death: Jun. 10, 1899
>
> Inscription:
> (no other info)
>
> Burial:
> Fairlawn Cemeteries
> Comanche
> Stephens County
> Oklahoma, USA
> Plot: Sec 2
>
> Created by: Jean
> Record added: Jan 19, 2007
> Find A Grave Memorial# 17565068
>
>
>> Ah, yes. Important distinction!
>>
>>> We were not invading.  We were liberating the country.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 6:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference
>>>
>>> Jane,
>>>
>>> That's what happened in the 1740s when Prince Charles invaded England
>>> from
>>> Scotland. The end came at Culloden Moor, after which Scots were locked
>>> up
>>> in droves. Many of them were sent to America, as was Alexander
>>> McDonald,
>>> whose son John served with John Cooley in 1755. John Pedder, also on
>>> the
>>> 1755 list, had also been an indentured servant. I suspect there were
>>> others. Richard Goode was of the planter class, his family having been
>>> in
>>> Virginia for decades. I have often wondered if John had been bound out
>>> to
>>> the Goodes, but that's just mindless speculation. I've found nothing to
>>> support it.
>>>
>>> John Cooleys appear on various ship lists for reason of transportation.
>>> I
>>> have them listed at http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/#imm
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>> I have a Calhoun ancestor that was captured in Scotland about 1650 in
>>>> a
>>>> war
>>>> with England, taken back to England and sold as an indentured servant
>>>> to
>>>> some brick company in Mass.  Anyone explored this possibility.  That
>>>> could
>>>> cause confusion about English or Scotch.
>>>> Jane
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Patrick Cooley" <dvrsyfyd7_at_yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "John Cooley Mailing List" <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Something close to this has to fit. My grandfather was insistent that
>>>>> his
>>>>> father
>>>>> Daniel Boon Cooley (great grandson to Edward out of Stokes county)
>>>>> had
>>>>> passed
>>>>> down to him that our immigrant ancestors to this country were
>>>>> Scots-Irish
>>>>> and
>>>>> that one of them was a "hunchback" whatever that might mean.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a mountain range in Ireland known as the Cooley mountains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 3:33:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Another "English descent" reference
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, brothers Thomas and Edward (Edward, John) went to Appanoose
>>>>> county
>>>>> IA
>>>>> by c1850, where Millard was born. Their nephew, David--from whom I
>>>>> descend, showed up there also, moving across the border to Putnam co
>>>>> MO.
>>>>>
>>>>> These Cooleys are well-documented in census records, etc. Millard's
>>>>> death
>>>>> certificate is a mess--and it says that his father was born in
>>>>> England,
>>>>> decidedly not true. But the strong tradition of English descent down
>>>>> the
>>>>> various lines is very telling and can't be ignored.
>>>>>
>>>>> A story passed down through a brother of Aaron's (James Armstrong
>>>>> Cooley)
>>>>> that the Cooleys were Jacobites, fighting for Bonny Prince Charlie,
>>>>> perhaps at Culloden Moor. The older Cooley brothers were sent to
>>>>> London
>>>>> and hanged and the younger ones transported to America. Apparently,
>>>>> Chuck's relatives in MO regularly went to kirkings. A piece of tartan
>>>>> passed down through the family and was buried with his father. I've
>>>>> studied Culloden Moor but could find no Cooleys. However, our DNA
>>>>> reveals
>>>>> a relationship to the Scottish Chieftain Somerled. His descendants,
>>>>> the
>>>>> McDonalds, were definitely there. The son of one of the McDonald
>>>>> transportees, John McDonald, served with Richard Goode and John
>>>>> Cooley
>>>>> in
>>>>> the Virginia Regiment, 1755.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very interesting story but I can't make it fit!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>> Was his father A.W. or S.E.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/1/2011 9:35 PM, Michael Cooley wrote:
>>>>>>> Regarding Millard F Cooley (Aaron, Edward, Edward, John)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> History of Fremont and Mills County, Iowa
>>>>>>> Chicago: Lewis Pub. Co., 1901.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've copied it here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://ancestraldata.com/Notes/index.cgi?1171050809+/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html
>>>>>>>l
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